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Client can’t view the QT movies
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All excellent points Lars. All I’d recommend is keeping and archiving the native P2 files… and then converting those to work in FCP. When you’re done erase the FCP files and archive the native P2 files. I think this will solve your problems and is the workflow we use…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.comApple Certified Trainer: Final Cut Pro 5
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[doka15] “Now I will have to have him send me back the discs so I can trancode them for him.”
Of coarse you will have him send copies of your original discs.
“everything is broken”
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doka15 wrote – “It seems like every other company DeckLink, Avid, AJA and so on that have a codec that is not standard in QT supply a free codec for people who need to work in that format that don’t have the hardware. I would asume that Panasonic would also offer this FREE codec to make it simple. Perhaps they do and I can’t find it or they are working on one or just don’t have one which some people in hear have said already.”
Mitch Ives wrote – “You’re finally getting it. “Non-Standard”… that means they didn’t follow the standards, so they HAVE to provide a codec. This isn’t a good thing, so you might want to stop describing it as though it were a better approach.”
He’s not describing these codecs as None Standards compliant, he’s saying they are not supplied in the ‘standard’ Quicktime installer – two very different things and he’s completely correct. They all follow standards; Avids DV100 is following the Panasonic guidelines, Avid DV25 and DV50 do the same, they are standards compliant and are provided for free, for both platforms so people can playback their QT media files on what ever machine they are on. Apple do not, they have made no Apple DVCPRO HD, Apple DV50 or Apple HDV QT codec for the win platform.
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And if I am correct you don’t get the DV 50 or 100 with QT. You have to buy FCP to get these codecs installed on your Mac. I only hope the powers that be at Panasonic re-think the codec problem. When I need to edit in FCP I don’t edit the MXF files I have to convert them to QT files to edit.
But it is intersting to know.
-Lars
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[doka15] “When I need to edit in FCP I don’t edit the MXF files I have to convert them to QT files to edit.”
Correct.
Therein lies the problem. Apple makes you convert them. If they supported MXF files natively (like EDIUS and Avid do; heck, for DV50, even Liquid supports it) then there wouldn’t be a problem.
It’s Apple’s insistence on converting the files to QT that has created the problem.
Hopefully enough of you are out there clicking on the “request a feature” button to request MXF timeline support to them that they eventually add MXF file support. Then all these issues go away (and editing in FCP becomes a lot quicker because you don’t need to go through the “import P2” phase).
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Hey Berry thank you. I didn’t know that all the other platforms edited MXF natively and it was only Apple’s FCP that made you convert to QT.
Interesting. Thanks for that tid bit of knowledge.
-Lars
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well let’s be honest- few other platforms actually support direct P2 import and *native* MXF. It’s not “all” just a couple.
Noah
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It’s not “all”, no. But it is several. Currently Vegas and Premiere don’t support it.
The issue remains. It is Apple’s need to convert the files that has created the situation that you have. And I really don’t see why it needs to stay that way. You can put JPGs and TGAs and TIFFs all on the timeline, right? In Vegas you can put a .mov or an .avi or a .mp4 or a DVD’s .vob file right on the timeline. In Avid you can put a .mov or a .avi or a .mxf right on the timeline. Why won’t FCP just allow you to drop an MXF right on the timeline? Seems like it really wouldn’t be all that hard, and it would produce tremendous workflow benefits.
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I agree it would be a benifit. The only problem that I have is I use many other applications that don’t support MXF. I use Sound Soap to remove back ground noise and It imports MOV’s not MXF’s. I use Electric Image for 3D work. I can use Mov’s as Texture maps not MXF’s. This is for many apps as well. I haven’t tried After Effects yet so I don’t know.
The point of this whole thing was to have Panasonic support QT by giving us a Plug-in. There is a need for it because you can buy it from other companies that have been mentioned in this thread.
If there was an easy way to connect the HVX to my Decklink card and log and capture footage I would. This whould bring it out of the MXF world and into a more user friendly QT world with free downloadable codecs for Mac and PC. Converting MXF to QT seems to be probamatic if you switch from 5.0.4 to 5.1 with your already created QT footage. I hope Panasonic does not pull a Sony and say you have to be apart of our club if you are going to work with our stuff. When Sony did that they saw my last Dollar and I was a big supporter of them before (Well not huge but they got my camera and monitor sales). Panny is way ahead of the pack but not quite there yet for me, My opinon only : )
Cheers
-Lars
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Totally agree Barry- MXF in some form native would be great if it could be made to play well in all other QuickTime supporting apps. I suspect that’s the holdup.
Noah
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