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Changing ‘Interpet Footage’ options of a clip once it is already in a comp?
I have been editing a project in Premiere Pro for some time now with the intention of importing my project into After Effects at the end to add effects to each individual clip, but I am having a problem.
Basically every clip in my Premiere Pro sequence/project needs a different treatment in After Effects. I am integrating both 24p footage that requires pulldown removal in After Effects, and 60i footage that I’m converting to 24p slow motion in After Effects. Every clip in my film needs one of these two processes. My film is 12 minutes long with over 150 shots. It is already edited in Premiere.
Importing and exporting every single clip in After Effects in order to work with them in Premiere would have taken an enormous amount of time. I was under the impression that once finished editing, I could import my project into After Effects and add effects to each clip individually, but I am having an issue. My worst fear is that I will have to add each effect and re-edit the entire film. :/
When I import my Premiere Pro project into AE, the Premiere timeline is converted into an AE comp with every edited clip inside. It also imports all of the unedited source files and places them in a bin/folder. My problem is I can’t seem to change the clip settings if they’re already in a comp (I need to go to Interpret Footage>Main>Conform to Frame Rate). I can only edit these settings in the unedited source file before they are placed in a comp. So if my project is already edited in Premiere and placed in an AE comp, I seem to be stuck because all I can do is add effects like color correction, but not edit the clip settings. Is it not possible to edit the ‘conform to frame rate’ option of a clip once it is already added to a comp? If I can’t find a way to edit each clip’s settings once they are already in a comp, that means I would need to do it individually to each unedited clip, basically meaning I’d have to re-edit my entire project. If someone can tell me if there is a way to get around this without starting all over, it would be a life saver. Thanks.
Jake Huddleston
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You can ‘copy’ a clip’s Interpret Footage settings. Thereafter, you can paste those interpretation settings onto one or more footage item that you select (multiple selections are supported) in the Project Panel.
You may have 150 footage items but I’m sure they can be grouped based on their Interpret Footage settings.
HTH
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I’m not sure if you understand my question…my footage is already integrated into an AE comp. All previous instructions I’ve read say that my ‘Interpret Footage’ settings need to be set before placing it in a comp. Is this true? I don’t care about changing the ‘Interpet Footage’ settings individually within the project panel…the point is, my clips are already being used in a comp. Can I still change their ‘Interpret Footage’ settings? I tried doing this, but it did not transfer to the clips if they were already in the comp. It still rendered out unchanged unless I then placed that clip into a new comp. Does that make sense? I need to know if there is any possible way to change these settings once a clip is already inside of a comp I am working with.
Jake Huddleston
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[Jake Huddleston] “my clips are already being used in a comp. Can I still change their ‘Interpret Footage’ settings?”
Yes you can. Interpret Footage kicks in automatically when you import a footage item. Occasionally, the interpretation may be incorrect, the clip’s metadata may have been incorrectly labeled or you simply want to set properties such as looping in the IF dialog window.
Now, all this is relevant to AE. I’m not certain on the mechanics with PremierePro’s IF.
My guess is that since the footage and comp originated from PPro, that’s where you will need to change the IF and not within AE. I think this seems to be the best solution too from a software engineering POV.
Good Luck
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Okay, that’s beginning to clear things up. Because when I click on a clip in the Project Panel, I can go to ‘File>Interpret Footage>Main’ and change the settings. However, if that same clip in the Project Panel has been used in a comp, I can got to ‘File’, but ‘Interpret Footage’ is grayed out and won’t allow me to change anything.
Now, you say that since my comp originated as a sequence in Premiere Pro, I may need to change the clip settings there before converting the sequence into an AE comp? I guess I’m not sure where to begin, but I will try to figure it out. I hope that, for instance, changing the frame rate of a clip doesn’t affect the footage if it is edited on a 60i timeline within Premiere. I will try to figure it out and come back if I have any more issues. Thank you for your expertise!
Jake Huddleston
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Hi Dave,
Haha, I was afraid someone was going to say something like that. *sigh*. Yes, I knew from the get-go that shooting in 60i was going to be painful. I knew that I was going to have to sacrifice half of my vertical resolution. My camera is a Canon HV30, and it does not have the option of shooting progressive at higher frame rates than 30p. But the idea for my film HAD to have slow motion elements in it, and therefore, I was willing to make the agonizing sacrifice. However, if I do say, I have actually found a decent way of removing pulldown from my 24pf footage. Nonetheless, you say ‘real old school, What do I know?’ Well, my guess is, a lot, or you wouldn’t be helping people out on this forum!
Now, you seem mainly disappointed that I have to sacrifice the quality of my film. I have come to terms with it. My real question is, can I change the ‘interpret footage’ settings of a clip once they have been used in a comp? This is the main thing I need to know right at this moment, no matter how the quality of my project turns out.
And just out of curiosity, you mentioned I didn’t observe the basics at the time of shooting. Enlighten me on the specifics? That would be awesome so I don’t do it again. As said before, my camera only has 24pf, 30p, and 60i filming options, all in full HD, no 720 or progressive-scan options for slow-mo, but slow-mo was essential.
Thanks for all your help. This whole thing is a major learning experience for me.
Jake Huddleston
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Hi Dave,
Hmm, that does make sense. I wouldn’t have done the pulldown this way, except for the fact that I found a thread with a bunch of people praising the method used. If you want, you can skim the thread here at HV20.com (a great forum for my camera, the Canon HV30):
https://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?14476-Removing-Pulldown-AFTER-Editing-Using-CS3
They apply a script to the footage (I don’t know if that changes anything), and not once did I read someone pointing out the problem you just pointed out. So if they all are in fact, wrong, I feel somewhat mislead.
The slow-mo process you described is basically what I’m doing. However, like I said before, the clips are already in a comp, and I can’t change the clip settings once they are used in a comp, only beforehand to the source clips in the project panel.
Let me know what you think of the explanation on HV20.com.
Jake Huddleston
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Hi Dave,
Thank you for your response. You don’t know how much I’ve learned about this the last few days. My problem was I didn’t fully understand pulldown before I began editing, and I didn’t read about it as much as I should have. I must’ve read Max Goldberg’s warning and thought nothing of it. It is a lesson learned for me, and I am just grateful that it is finally cleared up.
As much as I absolutely hate to do it, I am going to go back and re-edit my project. The end result will be much better looking, and I am looking forward to it being so. Thank you for all your help Dave. I appreciate it very much.
Jake Huddleston
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Haha, yes, it definitely is not. Part of me wishes it was a little simpler…but hey, I’m gaining experience I need to make it in the video world. Just out of curiosity, are they any examples of videos where pulldown was removed after editing and frames were lost? I know my video would look bad when finished this way, but I really don’t have an idea of how bad it would look. Just curious. Thanks Dave.
Jake Huddleston
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Hi Dave,
As a followup to my decision to go back and remove pulldown from my footage and then re-edit, I have am having a few issues. However, here’s what I’ve done so far:
I’ve begun removing pulldown from my clips within AE, and then rendering them out as Quicktime PNG’s like you recommended in another thread. I rendered out just a few so I could test them in Premiere. I edited several of the clips (pulldown-removed) in Premiere and then rendered them out to have a look at the edit points. For 4 clips, there were 3 cuts, and only one looked normal. The other 2 looked like the one below:
The last frame from the previous clip is still visible over the first frame of the next clip. It did not look this way in the timeline (I assume it wouldn’t), but only when I render out of Premiere. I’m guessing my problem is still pulldown-related, and I don’t know where I went wrong in the process. If you have any advice for me, Dave, I would very much appreciate it.
Jake Huddleston
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