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  • Capture Prores 422

    Posted by Marcus Bird on March 24, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Hi,

    I have some HDV 1080i 50i footage that I want to capture. I’m running a dual processor Mac G5 with a Sony HVR M25 deck. I’ve used the deck for capturing DVCAM footage but understand that my HDV footage is best captured with Prores 422.

    When I chose easy setup>HDV, everything looks fine, I change the capture preset to HDV-Apple ProRes 422 and when I select Log and Capture in FCP I just get the message ‘cueing tape’ and doesn’t capture anything. I dont have a capture card, but did read I wouldn’t need one – What’s the next step to get this up and running? Should I be getting a capture card anyway? Is it essential?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Peter Humble replied 15 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    March 24, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Well, you have to know how to set the machine to do that. Here’s how you do that:

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/poisson_chris/hdv-prores.php

    Shane

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  • Marcus Bird

    March 24, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Hi Shane,

    Thanks for that, I did search online already and read this article, though Chris has AJA Kona selected in the sequence preset. This is gear I dont have, can I capture ProRes 422 without it?

    Marcus

  • Shane Ross

    March 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Just choose the PRO RES option…that is the same one that AJA uses. It just slaps a new name on it.

    Shane

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  • David Roth weiss

    March 24, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Marcus,

    This method is entirely different from the typical capture method. You simply hook your camera up, cue it to the start of the tape, and it will capture automatically from camera start to camera stop.

    You need FCP 6.0.2 or higher, but no capture card.

    David Roth Weiss
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  • Marcus Bird

    March 24, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the help. Everything you said is what I thought before posting the topic, however when I try to capture with the settings discussed, the deck begins to play and the playback just shows ‘Cueing tape’ with a black screen. I understand there’s potential lag on the display, but I dont even get a percentage of what the lag will be or any playback… Any ideas?

    As for capture cards, should I be getting one anyway? I’m about to upgrade my system but having trouble finding the best advice on what kind of set up to go for.

    Thanks again,

    Marcus

  • Marcus Bird

    March 25, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Thanks again for the help guys, I ended up capturing through my Canon HV30 and it worked great. The Sony deck played the footage but never began capturing, not sure if anyone knows why that may be?

    Also, is there no way to log the footage before-hand? Going through a whole tape of captured footage and dumping seems much more time-consuming?

    Thanks again,

    Marcus

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 25, 2009 at 9:03 am

    FCP should recognize camera stop / start but might not through that particular camera.

    Using the AJA Kona boards, we can easily do a normal log and capture process during the conversion to ProRes or any other format. If you plan to do a lot of conversions as you move forward, the investment in a Kona product really does make your day to day life easier.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Marcus Bird

    March 25, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Thanks Walter.

    If I went with a Blackmagic over AJA Kona, am I getting a better, worse or just different piece of hardware to do the same job? If im going to upgrade, I would rather spend a little more for a better product that’ll do more and last longer, would it be worth getting a Blackmagic Multibridge over anything else? Any help would be appreciated, obviously I can’t test the gear first, hence so many questions!

    Best,

    Marcus

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 25, 2009 at 9:24 am

    In my own personal opinion, the AJA is a superior product. I’ve tested both in the past and we run only AJA products here. Everything is done in realtime, everything is clean and the support from AJA is second to none.

    The reason for this is AJA is a broadcast centric company and has been for a long time. They make many converters that have been used in broadcast production for quite some time and that same technology filters down to the FCP products. As of right now we have three AJA Kona 3’s, 2 of the HD10AVA converters and ADA 4 A/D converter, and the Io LA.

    Yes, they do cost more, but in my own personal opinion this is a case of you get what you pay for. Gary Adcock has done some really good comparisons of BMD and AJA in this forum and the AJA Kona forum so you can do some searches for him. He’s probably the 2nd smartest guy I know, next to Bob Zelin of course, so do a search on his name and Kona and you’ll probably find some of his great insight.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Marcus Bird

    March 25, 2009 at 10:33 am

    Walter,

    Thats incredibly helpful, thank you. I’ll search around for more info as suggested, any additional advice would be wonderful.

    Marcus

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