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  • Capture and Edit 24p Normal

    Posted by Filmmagic on September 28, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Hey guys,
    Recently switched over to a Mac and still working things out in FCP. I know that in Premiere and Avid, I was able to capture and edit 24p “normal” in a 29.97 timeline. I’m not seeing any easy way to do this in FCP. Can anyone offer some guidance? My only reason for doing this is because I have some interlaced footage that needs to be in the mix. If I can’t do this, I need to put the 24p “normal” footage in a 24p “normal” timeline and export as 29.97 I guess. Then combine the footage in a 29.97 timeline. Just looking for some suggestions. Thanks guys.

    ~Bryan

    Filmmagic replied 18 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    You can capture 24P normal as 29.97 in FCP too. Just choose the DV/NTSC easy setup…capture and go. SImple. Do not choose the “23.98” options…just straight up DV/NTSC.

    Shane

  • Russell Lasson

    September 28, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    What do you mean by 24P “normal”?

    Are you referring to 24PN on Panasonic P2 cameras?

    Or are you referring to a standard 2:3 pulldown by calling it “normal”?

    So where did the footage come from?

    -Russ

  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    24PN stands for NATIVE. 24p NATIVE…meaning that the camera records 24 ACTUAL FRAMES of video…not 24 frames spread across a 29.97 frame rate.

    #23 Differences between 24p and 24pA

    Shane’s Stock Answer #23

    Quoting Ken Stone’s site found at:

    https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/24p_in_FCP_nattress.html

    24p Normal
    When shooting in 24p Normal, the camera is adding normal standard 3:2 pulldown to the video, which results in 24p footage designed to work with any non-linear editing suite and it will play back and look good directly to any NTSC monitor. You can use 24p Normal footage just like normal video from any DV camera, and everything will work fine, but obviously, the footage will have a film look to it. If you

  • Russell Lasson

    September 28, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Nice resource Shane. Hopefully that helps Filmmagic figure things out. I still don’t know if he really meant “normal” to mean standard 2:3 pulldown or if he just figured that it’s what the “N” stood for in 24PN.

    So Filmmagic, if you haven’t figured things out yet, what camera and settings were used to shoot your footage?

    -Russ

  • Filmmagic

    September 28, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    Sorry Russ,
    I’m shooting with a DVX100a and I’m referring to 24p/2:3.

    Shane,
    I did the Easy Setup like you said but the only problem was, the interlacing was pretty bad looking (motion looked like bad reception on a tv). However, if that’s just during the capture then I’m fine with it. I have done it in the past, though, and it produced bad results. My settings are this:

    Capture Presets: DV NTSC 48 kHz
    Sequence Presets: ” ” ” ” ” ” ”
    Easy Setup: Format – all formats, Rate – 29.97, Use – DV-NTSC

    Is this right or am I missing something? Settings in the capture window maybe?

    ~Bryan

  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    “Just during the capture…”

    Looking at the capture window and try to judge quality? Don’t. That is just a small reference to show you what you have.

    NOW…you said it looks fine afterwards? OK then…there should be no problems. If you DO have problems, you might have shot 24PA or something…who knows. You can do a test capture and remove the advance pulldown and see what that looks like.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Tom Brooks

    September 29, 2007 at 12:48 am

    With today’s faster computers, shooting 24PA, editing in 23.98 and adding normal 2:3:2:3 pulldown when going back to tape should be no problem, should it? In other words, you’d shoot 24PA, but master to 24P.

    A question: If you lay back to tape with the 2:3:3:2 pulldown of 24PA, will that be properly flagged on the tape to allow you to capture from that tape in the future as 24PA and automatically remove pulldown during capture?

    Thx.

    Final Cut Studio, FCP 5.1.4, After Effects 6.5 Pro, Quicktime 7.2, G5 Quad 2.5, Kona-LHe V3.4, 4.5GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 7800-GT 256MB, G-RAID 2x1TB FW800, Mac OS-X 10.4.10.

  • Filmmagic

    September 29, 2007 at 3:18 am

    Shane,
    Actually I had said that the results were bad, but I may have had the wrong setting going on or something because the result now is awesome. Very crisp picture. Thanks.

    And thanks to everyone else for all your help.

    ~Bryan

  • Filmmagic

    September 29, 2007 at 5:00 am

    Shane,
    Video looked good but audio was off sync. Thoughts?

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