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  • Can’t Make reference movie

    Posted by Brian Paterson on July 17, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    I recently bought a Sony EX1-R and a few weeks ago shot a wedding which I edited as a 1hr film in FCP. (There was also some XHA1 footage in there as well)
    I made a reference file from the rendered timeline which was 731 mgbs and dropped it into iDVD – Simple. – Job done.
    Last week I shot another Wedding. This edit is 1 hour 40 minutes long and I need to get a DVD made ASAP. However It seems I can no longer make a reference movie. Whether the self contained box is ticked or not, when I export as a Quicktime movie it always says it will take about twelve hours to output the file. The only difference I have made recently is to upgrade my operating system from Tiger to Leopard 10.5.8 (not Snow Leopard) Could this have had an effect? In the meantime I have been reading up about all the other suggested ways of Exporting to make a DVD but they are very long winded and time consuming.
    I read a Ken Stone article which said better quality could be obtained by exporting using quicktime conversion and prores 422 but when I tried this and the estimated time rose to 34 hours I cancelled it.
    So the question is, is there any good reason I cannot make a reference movie from EX1 footage in FCP 7 on an Intel Mac Using OS 10.5.8 and is there a tried and tested best method for making a “best quality” DVD relatively swiftly. I have spent days reading articles which always seem to be about some exotic problems and complicated scenarios. I can’t find a simple definitive answer to what I would consider a very simple question.
    Can anyone help
    Many Thanks
    BRIAN PATERSON

    brian paterson

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 18 Replies
  • 18 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    What kind of computer are you on?

  • Brian Paterson

    July 17, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Hi Jeremy,
    I am on an Intel Mac running OS 10.5.8 2.8ghz intel core 2 Duo with 4GB Ram.

    brian paterson

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 17, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    That’s a laptop, right?

    Is your sequence fully rendered and conformed?

  • Brian Paterson

    July 17, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Hi Jeremy,

    No it’s not a laptop it’s a desktop computer – 24″screen etc.
    The Timeline is completely rendered with bar blue/grey no red orange green or any other colour. I don’t know if it’s conformed. How do I check that. In the menu ‘conform to sequence’ is greyed out.

    BRIAN

    brian paterson

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 17, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    File > Export > Quicktime Movie > Current settings Leave self contained and recomress all frames UNchecked.

    Is that what you’re doing?

  • Brian Paterson

    July 17, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    That is absolutely correct.

    brian paterson

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 17, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    My suspicion has to do with the codec.

    With your sequence selected, hit command-zero.

    In the render control tab, what does it say under the ‘Render’ section?

    Is the codec same as sequence or ProRes?

  • Brian Paterson

    July 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Hi Jeremy,
    Under the Render Control Tab it says: Codec – Apple Pro Res 422 ( HDV, XDCAM HD, EX HD4 ……

    brian paterson

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 17, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    [brian paterson] “Under the Render Control Tab it says: Codec – Apple Pro Res 422 ( HDV, XDCAM HD, EX HD4 ……”

    OK. I think that’s your problem. So what happens is that FCP renders to the ProRes codec in the timeline, then when you go to export, it renders it back to XDCam, which can take forever.

    My suggestion is to just start with a ProRes timeline and put your XDcam footage in it. This is allow for an easy ProRes export at the end, instead of the weird ProRes timeline intermediate that needs to be transcoded on export.

    As a test, dupe your timeline and chance that codec to same as sequence. Then render and see what happens.

  • Brian Paterson

    July 17, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    O.K. will do.
    I shall just dupe a few minutes at the beginning and get back to you. I have to go out for the evening in fifteen minutes so it might have to be tomorrow, depends on the rendering time.

    With regards
    BRIAN.

    brian paterson

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