Can’t Make reference movie

[Brian Paterson]

Hi Jeremy,
I’m a bit late now and my wife is getting grumpy but just had to see if this worked and it looks like it has.
I made a two minute section of timeline copied from the original rendered it and then went into sequence settings and and set the render tab to same as sequence codec.
I then exported two files, one as a self contained file and one with self contained unchecked.
The Self contained one was 394 MB and the other was 25 MB so it appears the problem was as you described. Just one thing though. In my rush to do this ( due to time ) I forgot to render the test footage as a pro res timeline instead it was still XDCAM so the trick was obviously in the same as sequence codec setting.
Finally would it be better for future projects if I used the pro res codec from the start or does that not really matter. – I will be taking the final file into DVD studio pro which I have never used before.

Thank you so much for your help and quick responses

Must Dash now my wife is screaming

I might get back to you regarding the other half of my original question

Regards and Best wishes

BRIAN.

brian paterson

[Jeremy Garchow]

Yes. Next time start with a full raster ProRes sequence at the matching frame rate. Things go much more smoothly.

Jeremy

[Brian Paterson]

HI Jeremy,

I’m back again. Sorry I had to rush off yesterday, I don’t think I thanked you enough and just wanted to say what a great job you all do at creative cow. It’s really great to have a place
to go to for good advice when things get tough and there is no-one near at hand to turn to.
Just one final question regarding your last reply. What do you mean by “Full Raster”

With Best wishes

BRIAN.

brian paterson

[Brian Paterson]

Hi Jeremy,
After last evening’s test re- making a reference file I thought I would take some time off (being a Sunday) and let the whole 1 hr 40 minute video export itself out to a quicktime reference file then I could burn the DVD this evening and get it to the client tomorrow. So I have just set everything up thinking it might take a couple of hours but and it says the estimated time will be 15 hrs. Also, the render line above the timeline has completely turned red – I can’t remember that happening before.
Does this sound correct to you? or have I still got a problem.

Many Thanks
BRIAN

brian paterson

[Jeremy Garchow]

[brian paterson] “What do you mean by “Full Raster””

Full raster as opposed to anamorphic HD (or thin raster).

Full raster is 1920×1080, thin raster is 1440×1080.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[brian paterson] “Also, the render line above the timeline has completely turned red – I can’t remember that happening before.”

That doesn’t sound correct. Did you change the sequence codec?

[Brian Paterson]

Thanks Jeremy,
I was already working in 1920 X 1080 so that’s O.K.
Regarding the exporting, because I changed the sequence settings last night I thought it would have retained the change but thinking about it now, when quitting FCP it says that modifications have been made and asks if you want to save them. I was of course thinking about the time line and not the sequence settings and so I clicked don’t save – obviously then it resorted to the original settings which is what caused the problem in the first place.
Going back and checking it now brought up a question in my mind. In the sequence settings panel the compressor is set to 1080XDCAM EXi50 and under the render control tab it is set to apple pro res 422 (hence the problem) If I change the pro res setting to “same as sequence codec” then that in theory will sort my problem.
If however instead, I change the compressor to apple pro res 422 ( which matches the codec setting ) then do I still have to change the codec to “same as sequence codec” setting or do I just leave it as pro res 422 ( which matches the compressor setting ) – or does it not matter.
Finally if I am intending to make a DVD using DVD studio pro is it best to export from an XDCAM timeline or a pro res timeline. Either way it looks like I will have to render the whole job again as any of these changes turns the render bar RED so might as well set it up to it’s best advantage at this point.

Many Thanks again for your help.
Regards
BRIAN

brian paterson

[Jeremy Garchow]

[brian paterson] “If however instead, I change the compressor to apple pro res 422 ( which matches the codec setting ) then do I still have to change the codec to “same as sequence codec” setting or do I just leave it as pro res 422 ( which matches the compressor setting ) – or does it not matter.”

Just to be safe, keep it as ‘same as sequence’. although it won’t matter as a ProRes sequence ignores that setting.

[brian paterson] “Finally if I am intending to make a DVD using DVD studio pro is it best to export from an XDCAM timeline or a pro res timeline.”

Technically, either will work, but I use (and prefer) ProRes for almost anything these days. I’d use the ProRes sequence instead of the XDcam.

Jeremy