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  • can’t edit on timeline

    Posted by Jim Buttery on February 22, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    I had some 8mm file converted to prores .mov files. I can’t edit the .mov files or the .wmv that I rendered them as. It seems like I can’t select any sections on the timeline. Any ideas?

    Jim Buttery replied 12 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Graham Bernard

    February 22, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Sounds like whatever you have on that TL is being recognised by Vegas.

    Can you send it through MediaInfo?

    G

    Video Content Creator and Potter
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  • Jim Buttery

    February 22, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Thanks for the reply. Yes, I recently formatted hard drive and will have to download MediaInfo. I’ll be back

  • Jim Buttery

    February 22, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    This is from MediaInfo:

    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Jim\Videos\Sony\Transfer 1\102.wmv
    Format : Windows Media
    File size : 141 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Overall bit rate mode : Constant
    Overall bit rate : 6 780 Kbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate : 6 764 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-02-22 18:08:46.970
    SfOriginalFPS : 239760

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : VC-1
    Format profile : MP@HL
    Codec ID : WMV3
    Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
    Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
    Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9 – Professional
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 6 519 Kbps
    Width : 1 440 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.175
    Stream size : 135 MiB (96%)
    Language : English (US)

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : WMA
    Format version : Version 2
    Codec ID : 161
    Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
    Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 9.2 – 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 3.99 MiB (3%)
    Language : English (US)

  • Jim Buttery

    February 22, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    This is MediaInfo from the original HUGE .mov file:

    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Jim\Videos\Sony\Transfer 1\102.mov
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : QuickTime
    Codec ID : qt
    File size : 2.00 GiB
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Overall bit rate : 98.8 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-02-18 21:27:18
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-02-19 19:43:16
    Writing library : Apple QuickTime 7.7.1
    com.apple.proapps.logNote : Untitled 01
    com.apple.proapps.reel : 001
    com.apple.proapps.scene : Scene 01
    com.apple.proapps.shot : 01
    com.apple.proapps.angle : 01

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : ProRes
    Format version : Version 0
    Codec ID : apcn
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Source duration : 2mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 98.8 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 17.946 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.655
    Stream size : 2.00 GiB (100%)
    Source stream size : 2.00 GiB (100%)
    Writing library : Apple
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-02-18 21:23:00
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-02-19 19:43:16
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709

    Other
    ID : 4
    Type : Time code
    Format : QuickTime TC
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Time code of first frame : 00:00:00;00
    Time code settings : Striped
    Title : time
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-02-19 19:43:16
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-02-19 19:43:16

  • Graham Bernard

    February 22, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Prores isn’t something I’m familiar with. But maybe somebody else here can advise you. Do try the SONY Vegas Forum where I know Prores gets discussed by people who do use it.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
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  • Jim Buttery

    February 22, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Graham

    Thanks for your time. I’d try Sony tech support, but never get a response.

    I’ll wait here to see if someone else can help or maybe repost on Monday. Thanks again.

    Jim

  • Graham Bernard

    February 22, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Jim, I apologise, I’m meaning the Official SONY Creative Software Vegas Pro Forum.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Jim Buttery

    February 23, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Vegas Pro 12 using a Dell Inspiron N5010 laptop, 8GB RAM, Intel I5 Quad @ 2.3 GHz, Intel Standard Graphics, no GPU

    I am able to apply Video FX to the preview, but can’t select or edit a portion of the file on the timeline.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3qnb3rq2tvipcy/102.wmv

    Here is the MediaInfo for a sample file:

    General
    Complete name : E:\Transfer 1\102.wmv
    Format : Windows Media
    File size : 141 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Overall bit rate mode : Constant
    Overall bit rate : 6 780 Kbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate : 6 764 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-02-22 18:08:46.970
    SfOriginalFPS : 239760

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : VC-1
    Format profile : MP@HL
    Codec ID : WMV3
    Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
    Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
    Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9 – Professional
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 6 519 Kbps
    Width : 1 440 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.175
    Stream size : 135 MiB (96%)
    Language : English (US)

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : WMA
    Format version : Version 2
    Codec ID : 161
    Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
    Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 9.2 – 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
    Duration : 2mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 3.99 MiB (3%)
    Language : English (US)

  • Norman Black

    February 24, 2014 at 12:06 am

    [Jim Buttery] “I am able to apply Video FX to the preview, but can’t select or edit a portion of the file on the timeline.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3qnb3rq2tvipcy/102.wmv

    “can’t select or edit a portion of the file on the timeline”

    This is a vague statement. What exactly do you mean by this.

    I downloaded the video file. I can put it on the timeline. Vegas said it created an audio proxy file. I can play it. I can position the cursor within the event and the preview window displays as expected. I can trim the ends of the event on the timeline.

    It does work in the trimmer window but the behavior is strange there. Only the audio waveform is shown in the window until you play, then the video is shown. When I stop, then the trimmer window goes back to the audio waveform display. This makes trimmer window usage with this clip unusable.

  • Mark Thompson

    February 24, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Hi, I downloaded your clip and it appears to me to be what I would have expected. You overdid the aging effect a bit 🙂

    SVP could not find an audio track, instead it created an audio proxy (which has no sound that I could tell). If there is audio there you will have to try some other tool.

    The way to edit it is to forget the trimmer and just use the main timeline. Use ‘S’ (split) to separate the joined up clips you have. I put a little text in the middle and again all worked as expected.

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