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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Can you trust FCP’s Title Safe

  • Peter Wiggins

    August 4, 2006 at 10:19 pm

    Guys,

    Title safe on SD anamorphic is actually the title safe area within the 4:3 picture within the 16:9 picture
    So my Granny who hasn’t got a 16:9 TV doesn’t lose anything impotant off the edges when viewing in 4:3

    Confusing I know, but Martin Baker has made things easier.
    If you have shake, the PAL safe area viewer is bang on the money, 14:9 (don’t you love the Beeb) too.

    Peter

    Free Motion Templates

    https://www.peterwiggins.com

  • Julian Clarke

    August 4, 2006 at 11:42 pm

    I don’t have to protect for 4:3 on this show, though I know that is normally the case on 16:9 deliveries. I just need to get it in 16:9 title safe. According to FCP I’m in, according to the EQ I’m out. I generated a photoshop file with 16:9 guides and they lined up bang on with FCP guides. So, are FCP and Photoshop both out to lunch on this, or is the EQ being overly vigilant?

  • Dan Riley

    August 5, 2006 at 12:09 am

    What is “EQ” you are talking about?

  • Julian Clarke

    August 5, 2006 at 12:33 am

    Quantel eQ, is a type of high end online machine, used often for HD (I believe).

  • Dan Riley

    August 5, 2006 at 1:34 am

    Oh, yeah.
    I used it last year for some chroma key compositing. Forgot the latest model name.
    But you are using Quantel, one manufacturer, certainly not the only one
    networks and broadcasters use, to determine your standard?
    Why is that?
    Why not just look at as many monitors and TV sets you can,
    (go to Best Buy etc.) and come to some kind of standard on your own.
    Safe Title really is a moving target anyway, with shows going on the web that
    show the entire raster and LCD, Plasma and projectors all doing it
    differently than CRTs of old. Seems odd to put all your faith in
    one equipment manufacturer. I certainly don’t trust FCP any more
    than I trust AVID when it comes to stuff like this. You have to do the
    research yourself, in my opinion.

    Dan

  • Julian Clarke

    August 5, 2006 at 1:46 am

    [Danrnw] “But you are using Quantel, one manufacturer, certainly not the only one
    networks and broadcasters use, to determine your standard?
    Why is that”

    I’m not using anything as my standard yet. I just wanted to know what people thought. If the consensus was that FCP’s 16:9 safe were not “safe” then I’d trust the Quantel one more. It seems that there isnt’ a consensus and that different machines are just drawing a different line in the sand, in which case, FCP’s guides are probably fine.

  • Dan Riley

    August 5, 2006 at 2:13 am

    Didn’t mean to jump on you.
    But I think you’re correct…a few pixels one way or the other
    is all we are talking about. The key is, did you or your client
    see a title that was too far past what everyone was comfortable with.
    I happen to think CNN’s crawl it a bit too low on my Sony CRT.
    Of course, if you are looking at it on a nice new Plasma, it’s fine.
    So there you go.

    Happy Seafair Weekend,
    Dan

  • Tony

    August 5, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Were you looking at an external safe title generator overlaying the reticles on top of the underlying video?

    If so was it a digital safe title generator or composite?

    There is a difference in where safe title will line up when looking at a digital versus composite version.

    Tony Salgado

  • Julian Clarke

    August 5, 2006 at 5:25 pm

    [tony salgado] “Were you looking at an external safe title generator overlaying the reticles on top of the underlying video?

    If so was it a digital safe title generator or composite?

    There is a difference in where safe title will line up when looking at a digital versus composite vers”

    Good question. I have no idea. I’ll talk to the online editor after the long weekend.

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 6, 2006 at 11:37 am

    [Julian Clarke] “But I think title safe, usually ers on the side of safety, so this didn’t necessarily mean that I was not outside “safe”.”

    Stay inside the Title Safe in FCP and you’ll be fine. We have not had any issues with QC and titles. We keep everything inside the Title Safe, which as you say errs on the side of caution, but we’ve never been flagged for a title.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

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