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  • can two editors work on same project – simply?

    Posted by Caleb Crosby on January 24, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Hi Gang,

    I started shooting and posting a 60 minute broadcast show and am on my 3rd week right now. Doing it all with a single partner who I shoot and edit with. we do the post in a 48 hour period with little sleep. (ok none)

    I need some help!

    We currently pass jump drives back and forth with project files or xmls, problem is either way, this almost never will re-connect media which is all in identically named media folders on separate firewire drives. it’s killing me. no way to work together efficiently. Can you please advise on the simplest method for two editors to work on same project? we are on two macbook pros running FCS 6.5.

    We work in the same room with a good wireless connection. If you can just point me in the right direction – I’ll run the details down.

    Thanks for the input,
    caleb crosby
    portland me

    Jeremy Garchow replied 17 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 24, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    The hard drives need to have the exact same name and directory structure. I mean like MIRRORED. Exact. This way the file directory path is the same. The only thing that you cannot reconnect are renders…you will have to click FORGET and then rerender.

    But then swapping the files still will have to be done.

    Or you can look into getting shared storage…but that starts getting expensive starting at about $10,000.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 25, 2009 at 12:05 am

    [Shane Ross] “Or you can look into getting shared storage…but that starts getting expensive starting at about $10,000. “

    it’s getting so much cheaper now it’s unbelieveable and for this setup it would be perfect. More soon in an article.

    But yes, for this purpose EXACTLY mirrored drives in every way.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Caleb Crosby

    January 25, 2009 at 12:16 am

    Thanks guys!

    Walter I’ll look for that article. may upgrade.. if we stay on the air!

    I’m going to buy the drives right away. I am looking at a sans digital hot swap, two enclosure Esata unit. Make sense? I figure I can mirror them and then remove when filled and keep just buying low cost sata drives.

    Also “mirror” you mean that in a manual sense, right? I set them up with same name and directory path, I don’t need any special controller or what all eh?

    appreciate it, Caleb

  • Caleb Crosby

    January 25, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Shane,

    Thanks for the steer. Can you advise on the project naming convention for shuttling to and fro between the two edit stations…?

    Having a distinct names for each send is all that comes to my mind.

    if you’ve done this in the past were there any gotchas or sleight of hand
    tricks?

    again,
    caleb crosby

  • Peter Wiggins

    January 25, 2009 at 2:19 am

    The simplest way to do shared storage is to make one computer a file server and share out the media.
    This depends on the data rate as the cheapest way to share is through a GigE ethernet switch which means forget uncompressed.

    I finished a job this year where we had a main MacPro connected to a XServeRAID that was used as a digitsing/edit station, a separate main edit MacPro and a playback Mac. We were also streaming EVS files onto the RAID via the MacPro. Quite a lot of traffic without a hiccup.

    Granted, you guys have MacBookPro’s so no guarantee if it will work, but computers are getting so fast these days they can do a lot in the background.

    Hope that helps

    Peter

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 25, 2009 at 2:47 am

    [caleb crosby] “I’m going to buy the drives right away. I am looking at a sans digital hot swap, two enclosure Esata unit. Make sense? I figure I can mirror them and then remove when filled and keep just buying low cost sata drives.

    Maxx Digital makes a really nice little 2 bay job that I use here for archiving. It’s NOT hot swappable, but I really don’t find it a big deal to eject the unit, shut down and swap the drives out.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Shane Ross

    January 25, 2009 at 4:51 am

    [caleb crosby] “Can you advise on the project naming convention for shuttling to and fro between the two edit stations…?”

    I always put the date any my initials on the project or cut, so that others know when it was edited by, and by whom.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Andreas Kiel

    January 25, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    If you want to go the XML way and use idle times to copy files you can use my free xmlReconnect.
    There is no website for this software but the app is pretty much self-explaining.

    There is a small movie at https://www.spherico.com/filmtools/xmlReconnect/reconnect.mov
    There app can be found here https://www.spherico.com/filmtools/xmlReconnect/xmlReconnect.zip

    Andreas

    Spherico
    https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

  • Caleb Crosby

    January 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Andreas,

    Many thanks. I looked at the movie and will DL and try this out.
    Will I need two mirrored drives for this to work? Or can I manually locate the scratch directory and connect the project files to media?

    Generally speaking, what I can’t understand is that even w/o mirrored drives FCP will not connect the files that I manually locate during the “reconnect” process.

    I mean what the hell? I grab the software and stick it’s face right into the candy jar and it’s too stupid to open it’s mouth!!

    It seems to me that FCP version 1 or 2 would relink files manually!

    Caleb

  • Caleb Crosby

    January 25, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Walter,

    yes I’ve been using a similar set up from OWC – an Elite Mercury pro (esata RAID 0).
    but I’m cranking thru 500G so fast that I keep archiving or dumping to cheap FW drives
    -but they are over a $100 a pop and tend to go down (as in last week, usb maxtor drive crash). I figure with a good hitachi 500G 7200 at $59… I need to start just cycling thru the sata drives. cheaper, more reliable and I won’t have to dump from drive to drive.
    Just fill it, eject it and pop in a fresh one.

    It’s a beautiful world ain’t it!!

    caleb ‘in theory yes’ crosby

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