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Can the Kona 2 handle DV footage in an uncompressed sequence?
I’m gonna assume Walter knows the answer to this.
We had a CineWave card, which had the awesome feature of being able to play DV footage in an uncompressed sequence without rendering. This meant we could bring an offline project over to the CineWave system, and re-render the titles and graphics in uncompressed while leaving the footage DV. It made life so simple.
Can the Kona 2 do the same thing? I put DV footage in an uncompressed-10 bit sequence and it needed to render. I can’t believe that a card that can upconvert and downconvert HD in realtime can’t transcode DV footage on the fly. I know you can digitize to DV in realtime, so it must be able to play it. Am I doing something wrong?
Also, on a related note, I’ve noticed that all my CineWave files play fine in the viewer window, but when I drop them into an uncompressed 10-bit sequence they have to render. Again, is there a solution? Thanks!
joey
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Joey, this is one feature of Cinewave that everyone is hoping companies like AJA will implement into their products. I do believe this was done on the Cinewave hardware as it shares some of the technology from the Targa3000 which, again, I believe is able to mix codecs in the same timelime on the PC. Can the AJA hardware do it ? Dunno…if it could be done, it would’ve been done by now unless there are some technical challenges.
With regards to your Cinewave files, if you put them in an uncompressed 8bit timeline, does it still want to render ? I bet not coz’ on my system, it didn’t ask to render.
-chrispy
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Not that it matters anymore, but I have a Kona/Xena SD board, and I can intercut DV, MJPEG, and uncompressed on the same timeline. This is on a PC editing app though. So I would say it is a software issue, because the hardware can do it with my software.
Kevin
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Hey AJA!!!!….. Make this a feature and I guarantee every Cinewave owner will convert!!! 🙂 Starting with me!! We’re definitely spoiled with multi-codec support on Cinewave. DV/DVCAM/DVCPRO50/10bit UC all in one timeline with no rendering is something I don’t think about anymore. Hopefully by the time I switch to Kona, I still won’t have to worry about it.
Ron
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[Ron] ”
Hey AJA!!!!….. Make this a feature and I guarantee every Cinewave owner will convert!!! :)”This was actually one of my biggest disappointments from Apple with FCP 5. i thought this would be an implemented feature right in the app with supported hardware, but it’s not there. Perhaps when the next gen desktops come out (maybe we’ll see them in June?) we can get that feature finally brought over. In the meantime, I simply capture any DV footage to the uncompressed codecs if I need to mix them with other stuff.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
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Go and check out the Decklink forum…they appear to have this feature working within FCP5.
Kona have to pull their fingers out…sorry. -
I remember when we had the CineWave with Final Cut 3 it couldn’t do mixed timelines, but it only took a driver update to fix that. I’m sure AJA will be able to do it too if the BlackMagic can. I hope it’s sooner than later!
joey
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Exactly!!!!! I just can’t see myself capturing DV footage to an uncompressed codec again.
With the amount of footage I deal with these days, doing “reality-style” broadcast, drive space will instantly become an issue again. And because its broadcast, I’m hit with multi-formats ALL the time.Decklink announced multicodec support during their NAB presser…but I didn’t think it would be available until the whole Multibridge thing came out. That’s a step in the right direction for them. Hopefully others (Apple, AJA) will follow.
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