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  • Can Lacie 2big Quadras (circa 2014) handle 4K footage? or T7 Shield best?

    Posted by Sarah Jones on August 1, 2024 at 5:27 pm

    Hi all!

    I’m returning to filmmaking after a decade hiatus, and trying to get up to speed!

    I was last editing on FCP in 2013 (and relying on this forum so much), using two Lacie 2big Quadra 6TB drives. I’m gearing up for my next feature (personal indie feature doc) and wondering what the minimum SSD/HDD requirements will be to begin shooting for an initial edit using Da Vinci Resolve Studio – before raising funds for the larger edit. In my research on this and other forums the Samsung T7 Shield drives come up, which is about all the new hardware I can afford right now. I was wondering if my old lacies can help get me through, and/or if a few T7s can do the job for this initial edit to apply to production funds. I’ll be editing with proxy files, but also the project involves AI enhancing old VHS and DV footage.

    Specs:

    Camera: Canon R6 ii shooting in 4K.

    Footage: 3840 × 2160, HEVC h265, 24fps

    MacBook Pro late 2020 M1 chip

    2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 16GB RAM

    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 1536 MB

    Software: Da Vinci Resolve Studio

    For this initial edit I was wondering if my old 2 x Lacie 2big Quadras 6TB (Thunderbolt 2) can be of use? And/or if I can use multiple Samsung T7 Shields (2TB) for one project in Da Vinci Resolve Studio, or if it’s better to get the 4TB T7? (heard it’s less stable?). Or if none of this will hold up a 4k edit.

    I currently have one T7 Shield SSD 2TB and Lacie Rugged 2TB HDD for use whilst shooting, but wondering if I already need to invest in more for this initial edit. Based in South Africa so they’re not super affordable but I can buy whilst shooting now in London.

    Thanks in advance!

    Sarah

    Mads Nybo jørgensen
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  • Michael Gissing

    August 2, 2024 at 5:08 am

    I would not trust a ten year old spinning drive over a new SSD. LaCie, for many, have not been as reliable as some other brands. Drive prices are so cheap these days that having a new drive is much cheaper than the consequences of a drive failure

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    August 2, 2024 at 1:47 pm

    Hey Sarah,

    Welcome back!
    Your project sounds exciting.
    I often have documentaries in and out of South Africa to work on.

    I am with Michael on this one, do not rely on old spinning drives, unless you have a near-back-up solution ready to mirror on to.

    There is some crazy offers on Scan.co.uk right now for 2TB Samsung T7
    https://www.scan.co.uk/search?q=Samsung+T7

    If you look at Amazon and others, they might have the same or better.
    One crazy issue to look out for, is that the price might be lower if you select another colour for any of the external Samsung T7 or T9 SSD drives.

    On the MacPro M1 you should be able to hang a OWC 4 port Thunderbolt (and USBC) on the back of it (or similar).
    Although the T7 is not Thunderbolt, you will still get good speed out of that.
    If you are buying SSD, the Samsung T9 is nearly double the speed of the T7.

    I’ve got both 2TB and 4TB Samsung SSD’s – just love them as a place to lay off projects, footage and other stuff to.
    I am mainly on PC, so if “forget” to eject the drive, I don’t loose the content on it.
    But with Mac FCPX, that appears still to be an issue. Don’t know with Resolve.
    Just worth keeping in mind for back-ups etc.

    Having in a previous life done a documentary edit on an old MacBook Pro 14′ screen, I can state that I will never ever do that again.
    On Davinci, if you don’t have, do use two monitors, or the MacBook pro in combination with a 27′ monitor or bigger.

    Just an opinion.

    Atb
    Mads

  • Sarah Jones

    August 3, 2024 at 8:07 am

    Hi Mads,

    Thanks so much for your generous and helpful reply!

    It’s intense stepping back in after all these years, but great – we’ll be shooting in the UK, Indonesia, and South Africa over the coming few years and I must say having a good camera and knowing this is my story to tell is exhilarating.

    Got the two T7s immediately in that sale you mentioned (they limit how many you can buy), and will get more, leaving the lacies out of it (good note Michael!).

    Also appreciate the tip re a monitor.

    All the best,

    Sarah

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    August 3, 2024 at 4:30 pm

    Hey Sarah,

    No problem at all. Sounds great!

    Not that I should advice on it, but you’ll find that several online retailers will run the same promotion.
    Including directly from Samsung UK, you can get the T7 2TB (Balck or Blue) for 135.
    https://www.samsung.com/uk/memory-storage/portable-ssd/

    Although you’ll still need the storage to use the files, I would not discount a cloud drive for added security. Obviously you have be near an internet connection that is not meetered per KB you upload and store…

    I am not a fan of DropBox or fame.io.
    But short of building your own on AWS or similar, my go to would be Google Drive – on a monthly billing cycle you can upscale to 30TB.
    But even at 5TB you are at UKP 199.99 on an annual plan + you get Google Meet to use for production meetings and review edits. Which is integrated with YouTube, so I would think that there is some serious steaming technology involved in that.
    I have the 2TB plan – with free FitBit advanced included 😓😀

    If you have producers or assistants working remotely, you can get them started with logging and selecting the juicy bits for you, whilst you are on the road.

    Atb
    Mads

  • Sarah Jones

    August 6, 2024 at 10:00 pm

    ah yes, most definitely… I’ve picked up backblaze so think I’ll try that as it’s unlimited back up for any externals attached to one computer, so for now that should be fine. I’ll still have hard back ups too, of course. The old 3 – 2 – 1 😅

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    August 6, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    Sounds great.

    Please do come back and share the Feature Doc when it is in general release.

    And, between that there will always be people here on the COW happy to answer questions.

    Atb
    Mads

  • Sarah Jones

    August 29, 2024 at 3:14 pm

    Hi Michael,

    Picking up on this thread again as I’m facing another decision point.

    I’m about to start editing and just re-assessing whether Premier Pro or Da Vinci Resolve Studio might be better suited to my project (feature doc I will edit from home).

    I had decided on Da Vinci because of the price point but a friend has given me access to Premier (indefinitely). I will be learning either platform from scratch, having only edited on FCP before now.

    I’m shooting 4K, but combining that with upscaling DV footage from the early 2000s as well as old home video footage from the 1980s (and so I believe Topaz will be better).

    Given the above and that I don’t have the highest capacity set up yet, I’d love your input on which programme you’d recommend?

    Thanks in advance!

    Best, Sarah

  • Michael Gissing

    August 30, 2024 at 7:00 am

    I ditched Pr when it went subscription a long time ago. I’ve used Resolve since vers8 for grading. I’d not recommend Adobe for anything anymore. The subscription model is a no no but more importantly as an editing tool I feel it has fallen behind in many areas and editors who have switched to Resolve from Pr tell me Pr is so buggy. The grade and audio tools in Resolve are way ahead of Pr.

    If you plan to finish in Resolve then it’s a total no brainer to stay in that ecosystem rather than suffer the translation from Pr into Resolve as Resolve is the most common grade and finishing tool around.

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    August 31, 2024 at 12:30 am

    Echo Michael.

    Davinci will take you from initial cut, to mastering out for distribution.

    Currently PPro is just not a stable platform + it feels in the latest release that the developers was busier removing features, than adding to them.
    Might be that they for once concentrated on making it stable.

    But, should add that Adobe programmers are constrained by a C-Suite and management that has lost sight of innovation.

    My gut feeling is that Adobe are so low on creativity that they are letting themselves being lead by ChatGPT – which is only as good as what you put in…

    Keep in mind that it is possible to migrate your edit later to another NLE, should you desire it.

    Davinci, is a good place for you to start + it comes with a full toolset for creative grading, Fusion for vfx, and Fairlight for audio.

    Atb

    Mads

  • Sarah Jones

    September 2, 2024 at 2:18 pm

    Hi Michael and Mads,

    Ok great your responses are super helpful as this was what I had picked up, and confirms my gut feel and research. It’s so weird that most of my peers are still in Premier but I guess the switch is just too intimidating.

    Thanks a mill!

    Sarah

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