Can I change the “Field Order” of several clips at once?

[Stephen Mann]

I can’t think of any way to do this. Or why I would want to.

I am also no sure where you are changing the field order since there are three or four places where you can do it, but the only one that really counts is in the encoding template.

Also, all media on the timeline are events – not clips.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Dave Petteruto]

Thanks for your reply Stephen and please forgive me for calling events, clips, my bad! At any rate I will try to explain why I want to change the field order of the video events. One day I was supplied some SD 4:3 video clips that looked terrible after being rendered. After messing around trying to figure out the problem I noticed that the field order was upper field first, so I changed it to lower field and it came out great. Now I am importing AVCHD 720p files onto my timeline and they are not looking good after render. I checked the properties and they were None (progressive scan) so I changed them to lower field first and they looked way better. That’s why I ask my question. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
Dave P.

Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.

[Steve Rhoden]

Have you tried by changing the field order in the Project
properties itself to see if it would also come out great?

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

[Dave Petteruto]

Steve–I’m not near the editing computer right now so I can’t check, but I’m 90% sure the project properties are in fact set to Lower Field. I’ve always used the standard Vegas settings and I think It’s always been set on Lower Field, but I will do some investigating when I get a chance.

Thanks
Dave P.

Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.

[Roger Bansemer]

Hi Stephen,
Since I use Vegas I am use to saying event and am clear on it. My question is, what is a clip? I never hear it used with Vegas but it is commonly referred to by others in the film industry.

Roger Bansemer

[John Rofrano]

[Dave Petteruto] “I checked the properties and they were None (progressive scan) so I changed them to lower field first and they looked way better. That’s why I ask my question. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.”

You can do this with Ultimate S Pro. If you don’t own a copy, you can download the 15-day free trial and use that. Go to the Video FX tab and you’ll see a video properties window just like the one in Vegas except this one allows you to affect all of the selected events at one time. You can change the event field order from there.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Stephen Mann]

Dave – I was going to suggest that you could only do this with a script. I don’t have UltimateS from Vaast (I think John wrote it), but it comes highly recommended.

Roger – If it’s on the timeline, it’s an event – not a clip. This is important for two reasons. First, on the timeline, an event points to the media (clip). You can have multiple events on the timeline from the same clip. You can trim the event, add a bunch of F/X to the event, and even pan-crop the event. But you never touch the media (clip). This is non-destructive editing. And you can have more events pointing to the same media with each doing something different from the other events. Second, if you search the help file for “how do I do xyz to a clip”, you won’t find anything.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Roger Bansemer]

Thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense.

Roger Bansemer

[Brett Underberg-davis]

[Dave Petteruto] “After messing around trying to figure out the problem I noticed that the field order was upper field first, so I changed it to lower field and it came out great. Now I am importing AVCHD 720p files onto my timeline and they are not looking good after render.”

It’s very possible I’m mistaken, given that a lot of what I work with comes from a Canon XL H1, and there’s a lot of variety in AVCHD formats, but I was under the impression that most AVCHD formats (at least in their raw recorded form) are upper field first? Lower field first is pretty common for SD video in the classic NTSC/PAL formats, but is otherwise on its way to the boneyard.

Am I mistaken?

[Dave Petteruto]

My question –is this something that I need to be doing to these clips/events? Is changing the field order a logical thing to do to render this footage to DVD (to make it look good)? I’ve done this because it works, but am I doing something wrong with Vegas setting/properties that is causing me to have to do this in the first place?

Thanks
Dave P.

Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.