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  • can firewire capture variable data rate

    Posted by Kripix on June 16, 2006 at 4:16 am

    i work with mini dv tape….and using firewire to capture all footage..
    but with 3.6 mb/s its to low resolution….

    i need to capture 8 mb/s….with firewire….can i do it?
    and which codec should i choose to get that?

    ps: i use FCP 5…G5..
    sony DSR 45
    and work under PAL system..

    thanks

    thx

    Arnie Schlissel replied 19 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
  • 15 Replies
  • David Roth weiss

    June 16, 2006 at 7:53 am

    [kripix] “with 3.6 mb/s its to low resolution….”

    Too low for what?

    Firewire only allows capture of digital video as it exists on tape. DV tape captured via firewire will yield DV quality video, no more, no less. If you desire to capture to another format such as 8-bit uncompressed, you must have a capture card like Blackmagic or Kona. You can always capture DV via firewire and convert using the codec of your choice, but that can be pretty time-consuming.

    DRW

  • Zeliha Bozkurt

    June 16, 2006 at 9:56 am

    Hi

    Another question to add.

    [David Roth Weiss] “DV tape captured via firewire will yield DV quality video, no more, no less.”

    If I capture DV tape using 8 bit does it improve the quality of the footage?

    Cheers

    Zee.

  • Steve Eisen

    June 16, 2006 at 12:27 pm

    Your quality will not be any better. It is only as good as your original.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Director-At-Large
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Steve Eisen

    June 16, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    And to answer the original question, you can capture DV 25, DVC Pro 50, and DVC Pro HD (100) over firewire.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Director-At-Large
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Mark Maness

    June 16, 2006 at 1:45 pm

    Bitrates and actual bitrates are always different in FCP. DV25 records to FCP around 3.6 mb/s, DV50 is around 6.2 mb/s, and it goes higher for each increase. Uncompressed 8-bit HD is around 162 mb/s.

    Just beacuse its DV25 doesn’t mean that it plays back at 25 mb/s. Remember the computer files are compressed and when you play back the video it decompresses the video on the fly to its maximum possible for that clip. Therefore a DV25 clip that is 3.6 mb/s will decompress and play bak at 25 mb/s on the fly but your file is still actually at 3.6 mb/s.

    I hope this doesn’t confuse you and don’t think in terms like MPEG video where 3.6 mb/s is too low of quality. That only applies to MPEG and web based video compressions.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com

  • Bret Williams

    June 16, 2006 at 1:53 pm

    I hope you were joking. I think you were, right?

  • Arnie Schlissel

    June 16, 2006 at 4:14 pm

    [Wayne Carey] ” Therefore a DV25 clip that is 3.6 mb/s will decompress and play bak at 25 mb/s on the fly but your file is still actually at 3.6 mb/s.”

    Wayne, I think you’re confusing bits (little ‘b’) & bytes (big ‘B’). DV 25 is 25 mb/sec, or 3.6 mB/sec.

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • Mark Maness

    June 16, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    You’re right, Arnie… Thanks for pointing that out. I’ve had one of THOSE weeks… I think my brain is about to shutdown or blue screen…. LOL

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com

  • Kevin Monahan

    June 16, 2006 at 4:30 pm

    What do you mean “blue screen”? 😉

    Kevin Monahan
    Take My FCP Master’s Workshop!
    fcpworld.com
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  • Mark Maness

    June 16, 2006 at 4:36 pm

    Sorry!

    That’s a PC thing… The wonderful Microsoft Windows Blue Screen of Death!

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com

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