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Can FCPX co-exist with FCP 7 ???
When it first came out I heard that you should not install FCPX on an existing drive with FCP 7 running. I really want to try it, although I am nervous ( I cant even figure out iMovie, and I have been editing 27 years, but honesty, tried for about 15 minutes)
I figure I need to try it for myself, despite all the moaning and groaning, some people love it. It looks like a standard timeline and bin set up in the pics on website.
Main Question…can I just install and use next to FCP 7?
Secondary…I have perused a lot of this debate forum…what is the real difference in editing that everyone seems so hung up on? Do you have a timeline, and a bin for source footage, and transitions, and layers, etc? If so, how different can it be? Do you still get apple prores codecs, xdcam support, etc…prores is the main reason I want to stick with final cut, despite crossgrade, I did not go back to avid, and sorry, premiere and after effects look like crap without prores for footage, imho. I used premiere for years with matrox boards, but now dedicated boards are not needed, sooooo, I moved to Apple just g=for FCP, and was not impressed by 7. did not do some basic stuff. for example, if you wanted to do a talking head PIP over footage, you might want to crop to a more square box. but you calso might want a beveled edge. well, the crop cuts out the bevel. In other words, if you add a bevel, then crop left and right, top and botton stay beveled, but sides go to straigt edge. It does not matter in what order effects are applied. This does not happen in premiere of AE, but in bot FCP and Motion. Many similar examples as well. Any of that fixed?Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
https://kaelinmotion.com
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You absolutely can. That rumour was dispelled on Day 1. There are no major issues that I know of.
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Are you running a AJA, Matrox or Decklink device? There are different drivers for X & 7 which is reason enough to partition your drive and keep a separate FCP7 install with OS away from the OS & FCPX install. The other issue is FCPX is 64 bit and FCP7 is 32 bit so you need to consider that when deciding which OS version.
If you need to have a stable working FCP7 I would advise the simple insurance of either cloning your drive before doing a clean OS & FCPX & FCP7 install or doing a system drive partition and dual booting. Check the Apple site for guidance on how to install both on the one OS. Personally I wouldn’t recommend it as I need a perfect working FCS3 and have that still on SL. Eventually OS updates will have negative impacts on FCP7. On the FCP cow forum there have been many reports of people having issues with ML. dropped frames, firewire devices not initializing, esata RAID driver compatibility.
Although Marcus is right in that it can be done but doing it with perfect safety and maintaining a stable FCP7 is not without potential dangers and messy recovery.
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We were taking about this very fact here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/16961
FYI, latest AJA drivers work with many manner of NLE. 7 and X included.
I also have a 64bit Snow Leopard boot and fcp7 works great.
I do not have my production fcs3 and fcpx together. My produ toon machine will stay like it is until its no longer needed on the next decade or so.
Jeremy
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Okay, this has only confused me a little 🙂 I do on location editing via a macbook pro, 2.5 GHz quad i7 running lion. I have a mac Pro tower with 8 xeon cpu’s. on the laptop, how would I do a dual boot? Kind of limited drive space (750GB system drive.) can you boot an external drive? I do have a dual eSATA card. I only even consider this because I got a call requesting FCPX. apparently a client saw it and loved it…hope it works as nice as it looks.
Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
https://kaelinmotion.com
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Does your laptop have a DVD drive or is it the newest crop of laptop?
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i got both FCP 7 and FCP X living quite happily on the same lion 10.7.5 boot. No need to complicate things.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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Has DVD drive, and I actually use occasionally, silly clients still want DVDs. I was thinking about removing it and adding second drive, possibly SSD. CAN I THEN PUT DVD DRIVE IN USB HOUSING, OR DO I HAVE TO BUY THE NICE ALUMINUM APPLE EXTERNAL DVD DRIVE? Also, can you boot from external drive?
Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
https://kaelinmotion.com
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It’s true there’s no reason to complicate things, but it’s also true that fcs3 is dead.
I have such a poke of old projects that I will need access to for years to come, that I literally can’t afford to mess around, so perhaps I take this a bit too seriously.
In my older 17″ laptop, I have two boot drives (got the data doubler from OWC). It’s great. They also have an external case that you can use to make your DVD usable, sold separately.
One on drive I have fcs3 only. On the other, my more “experimental” drive, I have both. It does work just fine, but someday it might not.
I have a similar setup in one of our MacPros. The other production machines are all single boot drive stuck on Snow Leopard.
I’d keep at least one drive somewhere locked at snow leopard or lion with just fcs3. There’s no harm and its not complicated.
Also, I realize everyone’s needs are different. As I memtioned, I will need reliable access to my archive so I need to make sure that can be a reality.
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Oh, and yes booting from an external drive is possible, but performance isn’t usually as speedy. esata is harder to boot from. Usb2or3, fw800, and now thunderbolt is best.
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There is a 3rd party app that let’s fcp7 projects open in fcpx.
https://assistedediting.intelligentassistance.com/7toX/
Don’t know if its the only one. It is really cheap and from all I’ve heard it works.Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
https://kaelinmotion.com
New York
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