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Can AJA Kona LHe work on Mac Pro & Mac Book Pro?
Posted by Webfilms on September 7, 2006 at 10:33 pmHi, simple questions as I’m new to AJA Kona but I’m looking at getting a Mac Pro for Final Cut Pro, Shake, After Effects, and Maya. Will kona LHe work on Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro? I want a editting solution for the road.
Thanks
webfilmsBob Zelin replied 19 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies -
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Bob Zelin
September 8, 2006 at 12:44 amIf you can tell me how to get ANY card inside a laptop, I will tell you how to get your Kona LHe to work on the MAC Book Pro. As for the MAC Pro – it works just fine. If you want one product that will work on both, get the AJA I/O.
Bob Zelin
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Adolfo Rozenfeld
September 8, 2006 at 6:35 am[Bob Zelin] “If you can tell me how to get ANY card inside a laptop, I will tell you how to get your Kona LHe to work on the MAC Book Pro”
Bob: One of the worst things that can happen to any of us in a web forum is being sarcasting and being wrong at the same time 🙂 I tell you because it has happened to me many times.
So, to answer your question, here it is: The MacBook Pro has an ExpressCard slot. You know what that is? No less and no more than a small form, full PCI Express slot with 1.5 Gbps bandwidth.
So, while the Kona won’t fit that slot, it’s not only doable: better than that, it’s being done.
An OEM developer is about to bring to market this ExpressCard that fits into the MBP and allows SD, SD-SDI, HD and HD-SDI in a laptop:
https://www.vydeo.com/products/EC34.htmlIf AJA and/or Decklink are blind enough to not buy it, add software and a small BOB for analog that’s another subject. There’s an obvious market for this. I for sure would buy one the day it comes out. I monitor their forums everyday to see if they annouce such a product, and I can’t believe they haven’t so far.
What was your question about fitting a card into a laptop? 🙂
Just kidding
All the best!Adolfo Rozenfeld
Buenos Aires – Argentina
https://www.adolforozenfeld.com
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Walter Biscardi
September 8, 2006 at 8:46 am[Adolfo Rozenfeld] “If AJA and/or Decklink are blind enough to not buy it, add software and a small BOB for analog that’s another subject. There’s an obvious market for this.”
Never heard of either AJA or Blackmagic purchasing a third party product. If either company wanted a product like this, they would develop it themselves. I suggested a product like this to Aurora over two years ago and there wasn’t any interest in developing it.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Adolfo Rozenfeld
September 8, 2006 at 9:03 amHello, Walter.
It’s not a third party product, it seems. It’s an OEM chipset thing, something other manufactuers will present as their product. It happens all the time. They are not making it for consumers…. so they are making it for people just like AJA or Decklink 🙂 If AJA or Decklink write additional software and add a little BOB or something like that, it becomes their product.They claim it will be compatible with FCP with the OEM drivers. As far as I’m concerned, I would then only need a Quicktime V-Out component, so it works with Motion, After Effects, Photoshop, etc. And the analog BOB. Oh, and someone who sells the product to consumers 🙂
Two years ago what you suggested wasn’t really possible because the slots didn’t have the bandwidth. At least for HD. Now it’s PCI Express on a laptop, which is the main subject of this thread. The question was how do you fit an uncompressed card in a laptop. This is how.
Interesting times, aren’t they?
All the best
Adolfo Rozenfeld
Buenos Aires – Argentina
https://www.adolforozenfeld.com
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Walter Biscardi
September 8, 2006 at 9:10 am[Adolfo Rozenfeld] “Hello, Walter.
It’s not a third party product, it seems. It’s an OEM chipset thing, something other manufactuers will present as their product.”I understand that, but from what I can see, BlackMagic and AJA make their own products and AJA actually has quite a lineup of OEM cards that would surprise many on these forums. My point is that if AJA or BlackMagic want a product like this, they will most likely make it themselves rather than purchase this from a third party company.
The product I suggested for Aurora at the time would have been SD only.[Adolfo Rozenfeld] “Interesting times, aren’t they?”
Absolutely. We’ve had the AJA Io for several years now which brought uncompressed SD to the laptop so no reason we can’t be looking to move the I/O inside the laptop.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Ramona Howard
September 8, 2006 at 6:19 pmAdolfo,
The product is still not available, like many others claiming to be out there. AJA, BM, DVS and others make products that are shipping now. Until we can pack all the features we have become accustom to in the current shipping products(boards), we are left with systems not laptops for this crucial stage in the operation.
It will be interesting to see who of the big 3 will move to this but I bet you will see them design and built their own not use a competing product.
Cheers,
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Bob Zelin
September 9, 2006 at 5:50 pmAdolfo –
from your link –
“This product is in the design phase in Vydeo’s Labs, pending the release of a revolutionary new IC that will enable an extensible, programmable platform of pro video format converters at the industry’s best price/performance ratio. Detailed specifications are available under Non Disclosure to qualified OEMs.”By the time this comes out, Apple will have yet ANOTHER laptop released – and who knows, maybe there WILL be a real PCI-e slot in it.
Bob Zelin
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