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  • BWF to FCP, and timecode shenanigans

    Posted by Tony Ostrovsky on October 20, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Hello everyone!

    Do I absolutely have to buy BWF2XML converter to work with BWF format in final cut? I’ve tried importing wave files from Edirol R-4 Pro recorder and FCP shows the timecode in Media Start and Media End fields. Although, after trying to place a clip with start timecode of 14:35:34:20 on a sequence, FCP warned me that it’s impossible to place any media with TC hours value over 12 or 6 hours.

    Question: what timecode on portable recorders and digital camcorders (rec-run or Time-of-day) do professionals use in the industry? If it’s Time-of-day (which seems more reasonable to me), what time do they set instead of those 14 hours, 35 minutes?

    Thank you!

    P.S.
    Already downloaded Sebsky tools – going to try it tomorrow. If there is no free BWF to XML converter, I might write one for my third year project in uni 😉

    Tony Ostrovsky replied 16 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Aaron Neitz

    October 20, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    You can absolutely edit with clips that have 14hr timecode. Time of day code is uber-common.

    You can’t have a 14 hour long timeline, however

  • Tony Ostrovsky

    October 20, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Thank you Aaron,

    So, let’s presume that footage with 14 hour timecode had been imported into the sequence and it lies somewhere at 01:00:00:00. How do I sync it with sound from a field recorder?

    Thanks!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 20, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    sequenceLiner from Spherico Film Tools.

    Watch this, and you can ignore all the MXF stuff if it doesn’t pertain to your project (although might be good to watch anyway).

    https://www.macvideo.tv/editing/features/index.cfm?articleId=3200691

    Jeremy

  • Aaron Neitz

    October 20, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    look at the timecode on your video, find the same IN point on your audio, place some IN POINTS and overwrite the audio to the timeline.

    OR if you don’t have matching time-of-day code on your video: find the head of the take with the smart slate. The smart slate should be running time-of-day and should be synced with the audio recorder. Again just read the number on the video and type in the matching audio timecode.

  • Tony Ostrovsky

    October 21, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Jeremy,

    Your presentation was brilliant! I am using a P2 workflow (HVX-200) and what you’ve shown deeply amazed me! Thank you very much!

    Aaron,

    If MXF4Mac will not happen to be free, I’ll probably have to resort to manual editing, so thanks for your hint!

  • John Fishback

    October 21, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Great video. Has anyone played with PluralEyes?

    John

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 21, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Thanks, guys.

    Plural Eyes is great, but it’s strength lies in sources that have no timecode what so ever. It then analyzes the audio and syncs that way.

    Very cool, works reall really well, but takes some time.

    If you have matching tc for your video and separate audio, sequenceLiner is a bit of a time saver in my opinion. Have a look here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1056962

    Jeremy

  • Tony Ostrovsky

    October 25, 2009 at 11:00 am

    And, just in case if you use Panasonic P2 cameras, it’s possible to sync timecode on multiple cameras through a Firewire cable.

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