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But it’s a DRY camera heat…
That comment Black Magic’s Dan May made to me about the URSA being “water cooled” has been rattling around my brain for the past week – and popped back up when I was looking at the promo video from the CION this morning.
It caused me to focus on the BIG wraparound grid of what must be cooling holes on the CION body up where the sensor would be mounted.
Clearly, these new sensors are generating a boatload of heat. And the camera engineers are having to deal with that.
I wonder what that means in a few areas. Sensor life. Operator comfort when the camera is shoulder mounted? Dust? What about shooting here say, Arizona, vs Alaska? Will the heat be an issue?
I wonder what the new important factors will be in this new era when basically, computer engineering companies are designing the new generation of cameras – rather than dedicated camera companies – or at least the huge corporations that have long invested camera design divisions with lots of experience.
Interesting to speculate as our industry evolves.
Thoughts?
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I agree with you on this point. With cameras and of course NLE’s, tech engineers seem to be doing the designing from a “tech” standpoint, rather than a functioning film/broadcast/ industry standpoint. The most obvious example of this was of course Apples’ renaming of industry standard conventions in FCPX (no more bins, timelines, etc) I suspect this is the reason why the Arri Alexa was adopted so widely by the ultra conservative film industry as Arriflex has been around for many many years and many many films.
Will form top function?
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[Bill Davis] “Clearly, these new sensors are generating a boatload of heat. “
I would suspect that the processor is generating quite a bit of heat, especially on the URSA where the processor is overengineered to allow for new sensors later on.
[Bill Davis] “I wonder what the new important factors will be in this new era when basically, computer engineering companies are designing the new generation of cameras – rather than dedicated camera companies – or at least the huge corporations that have long invested camera design divisions with lots of experience.”
Moore’s Law, coming soon to a tripod near you.
Walter Soyka
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Heat is always a problem with electronics but back in the SD days you had pretty big cameras that didn’t have to do a ton of processing so heat build up wasn’t a major problem. These days you have much larger sensors in much smaller camera bodies containing processors doing significant amounts of number crunching.
That’s one of the limiting factors of DSLRs for shooting video is there’s very little space for heat dissipation so there’s only so much you can pack in there before it overheats and glitches out. Also, until RED figured out their cooling problems crews literally strapped ice packs to the the early RED ONE cameras when shooting out in hot temps.
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[Walter Soyka] “Moore’s Law, coming soon to a tripod near you.”
Who’s doing the t-shirts of this??? I want one.
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[Bill Davis] “Who’s doing the t-shirts of this??? I want one.”
If we want it to sell, we need to acknowledge the cool kids. We should change tripod to slider — or even better, gimbal!
The shift in what it takes to make a camera, and thus who can do it, is fascinating to watch. I’m a post guy, but I’d be interested to hear from more knowledgeable contributors. Who do you think this will affect most, and how? Canon? Sony? Panasonic? ARRI? RED?
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[Walter Soyka] “Who do you think this will affect most, and how? Canon? Sony? Panasonic? ARRI? RED?”
I would say first it effects rental houses who have invested in those you listed.
It used to be you could take some time and get a camera paid off before people where asking for the newest latest thing (that was half what you paid for yours).
I don’t know about others, but there is still a trust factor when I’m putting down the cash.
BM has not been making cameras long enough to have a track record form me, and the same for AJA
I know about Sony, Panasonic and Canon.
I have yet to see anybody out in the field shooting with a BM camera. Maybe this new one will change that.
I hope that Sony and the rest don’t start sacrificing quality to get down to a cheap price to compete.
A race to the bottom if you will.
You could save money on the upfront price of a camera but if it goes down on a important job and bags you will it be worth it.
On a side note, I noticed that X is on the laptop in their ad for the CION
Interesting.
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Having shifted all my computers to water cooling where possible and having done a recent location shoot with a RED Epic with a fan blowing like a Cessna about to take off, I vote for water cooling. Simple, closed quiet and efficient.
They will all do it.
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As a ditto to what Tony said, I’ll say that I’m pretty “over” cameras. Going out of style faster than the latest internet cat meme.
These days the thought of some cine EF glass gets me goin’. Like the new Canon cine servo-optional 17-120, 4K spec’d…. mmmmm…… $32K well spent….
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[Bob Woodhead] “Like the new Canon cine servo-optional 17-120, 4K spec’d…. mmmmm…… $32K well spent….”
I am so curious as to what this lens is going to look like.
I am not a fan of EF still lenses on video cameras so I hope that Canon used some special sauce.
While Canon’s colorimetry (in general) is typically “pleasing”, it is also very specific.
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Have you looked at their (fairly new) cine primes? I’ve been A/B’ing them against the Zeiss CPs, and they look at least as good (in my half-blind, uncalibrated, possibly inebriated opinion).
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