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Mark Suszko
April 25, 2014 at 6:01 pmMaybe they could explore using phase-shange materials, Peltier junctions, and heat pipes leading to external radiators. I remember the heat sink fins on the old RCA TK-series cameras getting pretty warm, and I found the warmth of our early DVCPRo HD cameras disconcerting.
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Bill Davis
April 27, 2014 at 4:59 pmOr perhaps they just engineer the water storage system the same way that folks engineer stuff like water bottles and sodas and thermoss and other fluid container – zillions of which fly around the world daily without big issues???
Just saying.
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Andrew Kimery
April 27, 2014 at 6:00 pm[Bill Davis] “Or perhaps they just engineer the water storage system the same way that folks engineer stuff like water bottles and sodas and thermoss and other fluid container – zillions of which fly around the world daily without big issues???”
So designing a closed system of thin-walled, narrow tubes that twist and turn through very confined spaces, experience rapid, extreme temperature changes while transporting a liquid under pressure is the engineering equivalent of an Evian bottle?
There are a number of reasons heat sinks and/or fans are by far the preferred method of cooling electronics. Even Apple’s experiment with liquid cooling was short lived and problematic (and desktops get knocked around a lot less than cameras do).
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Bill Davis
April 27, 2014 at 6:48 pm[Andrew Kimery] “There are a number of reasons heat sinks and/or fans are by far the preferred method of cooling electronics. Even Apple’s experiment with liquid cooling was short lived and problematic (and desktops get knocked around a lot less than cameras do).”
Andrew, I’m not saying that it won’t be an issue. But I’m also not saying that it will. It’s no different in my mind from noting that the Cion has lots of holes in it’s body and how that will interact with – for example – internal dust accumulation. There might not be a problem at all. And somebody may be able to take off the “grills” and blow the dust out the same way I do every couple of years with my MacPro Tower Unit. Nobody trashes those for that issue in dusty climates. It’s no biggie. And similarly we don’t know whether that URSA cooling scheme will leak after one flight, or stay perfectly stable for 20 years.
And that’s the point. We’re debating speculative theory here because we don’t have any actual hands-on experience.
NAB and other trade shows that feature “technology demonstrations” and “new product introductions” always leave a lot of unanswered questions. Sometimes the tech specs alone give us reason to be interested in a new technology. But only to a point.
The original RED NAB intro being a superb example where the excitement about the design ideas came first, but then there is an extremely long multi-year climb before those original specs get turned into a dependable shooting solution – with lots and lots of technical refinement and direction changing along the way.
Any of the new cameras from BlackMagic, AJA, Sony, Canon, JVC, Panasonic, and others have to climb the same steep hill from theory to practice.
It’s fun to talk about – but right now nobody has a clue whether “leaky Ursa” or “Cion overheating” or who knows, maybe “amazing JVC Elyse” becomes the big talking point a year or two from now.
There’s just no way to tell at this point.
Which IS my point.
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