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  • broken tape

    Posted by Natalie Raichl on October 25, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    Help!

    I just got back from Serbia, shooting an HD series on the U.S. Olypic team. Shot 15 reels on DVCPro HD, and one reel, (the one with all the scenics and standups, naturally) is stuck at the end. I opened the case, and while it appears to be attached, it’s wrinkled a little, and wound inside the reel. Is there anyone that can repair this? since it’s right at the end, it seems repairable, if I can find the person to do it.

    Kevin

    Robin Probyn replied 18 years, 6 months ago 9 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Rich Rubasch

    October 26, 2007 at 1:18 am

    If the tape is just wrinkled a little and the footage at that spot is not critical you can just rewind the tape and upload it.

    One thing here folks…..I heard from a tech today that a lot of us are shooting DVCProHD on the yellow cassette Panasonic tapes. These are actually designed for DV25 material. the lavendar tapes are designed for DVCPro50 and another color is for HD. The tech said we really shouldn’t use the yellow cassettes because they will cause more errors….much like using non metal tape in a Beta SP….a standard oxide tape….much more prone to errors.

    Just an FYI.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media

  • Gary Adcock

    October 26, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    [Rich Rubasch] “These are actually designed for DV25 material. the lavendar tapes are designed for DVCPro50 and another color is for HD. The tech said we really shouldn’t use the yellow cassettes because they will cause more errors….much like using non metal tape in a Beta SP….a standard oxide tape….much more prone to errors.”

    Rich

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/120/858455

    the facts from Panny’s HD product manager.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Chris Bell

    October 26, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    From what I understand, the blue (PRO50 label) and red “L” cassettes (HD label) have been discontinued. I wish Panasonic would continue to provide the Red label, as it lessens confusion with producers who don’t understand that there is NO difference. I worked with a production company which purchased one yellow cassette as they thought it would last 126 minutes in the Varicam. There were rather miffed when I informed them on fact it would only last 31 minutes.

    Perhaps Panasonic could relabel the “yellow” cassette with more information? I have to admit 126L is a bit misleading. Sounds like even the “techs” out there are confused.

    Chris Bell

  • Natalie Raichl

    October 26, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    actually, the tape seems to be stuck somehow, I can’t get it to rewindin the 1200 deck, but in trying to do it manually, I’m not sure if I need to release a brake to allow the reels to spin. More advise needed here.

    Regarding the tape stock, when I bought the Varicam three years ago, the sales engineer that came out to train me on the camera told me there was no difference in the tape at all, outside of the case color, and it was their “little secret”.

    Kevin

  • Ernie Santella

    October 26, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    OK, now your scaring me. We’ve been told all along there is NO difference in formula between the color cases. The tape is the same inside.

    Will someone in the industry please speak-up and set this straight.

  • Leo Ticheli

    October 26, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    This is an urban myth that just won’t die! It’s been covered like a rug here at the Cow and other forums more than should be tolerated.

    There is NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE in the tape, formulation, coating, plastic case, mechanical construction, etc.

    Anyone selling you the “HD” version is picking your pocket.

    Rich, I hope you are not paying the tech who told you there was a difference in the tapes; he/she should be fired on the spot.

    Good shooting and best regards,

    Leo

  • Gary Adcock

    October 26, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    [santellavision] “Will someone in the industry please speak-up and set this straight. “

    What my REFERENCE from the Former Head of Panasonic’s HD broadcast division is not good enough?????”

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/120/858455

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Ernie Santella

    October 26, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    That’s good enough for me. I agree, Rich should change techs who give bad advice like that.

  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    October 26, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Hi,

    The tape on the inside of the cassettes is indeed the same. No difference at all.

    As far as getting your tape fixed, I have heard good things about the guys at Abel Cine Tech in NYC doing a cracker-jack job on this.

    Hope this helps,

    Jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, HPX500, HVX200, DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • Gary Adcock

    October 26, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    thanks Jan…

    gary

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

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