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  • Broadcast monitor vs Pro Video monitor (not consumer TV)

    Posted by Matt Campbell on July 2, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    1st off, wasn’t sure what forum was best for this, since there is no general or post production forum.

    Anyway, I’m looking to build out our Premiere Pro edit system and either getting a BMD UltraStudio Express or AJA Io Express for Thunderbolt I/O with a new iMac that’s replacing a built up Hackintosh. We really can’t afford a 2K+ broadcast monitor as I’m pretty much building a suite from the ground up and to be honest don’t do broadcast edits in-house, we out source that or edit in-house and finish elsewhere. If a broadcast monitor is too expensive, what is the next best option. A professional video monitor (preferably Plasma) vs just a consumer TV, as they are built for long hours (100,000 life span) of usage in the edit suite. Would a pro monitor like one of the below be a viable substitute for a broadcast monitor? Most of our work is for online usage and corporate video. And with these monitors, is HDMI ok vs. getting an SD/HD-SDI input module? This would serve as both a reference monitor for me, the editor, and a client monitor for our creatives to review the edit.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/886838-REG/Panasonic_th42pf50u_42_HD_Pro_Plasma.html

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/878342-REG/JVC_PS_420W_42_Digital_Signage.html

    Any help is greatly appreciated. And hopefully in the future, as needs present themselves, we could look at a JVC or Flanders FSI broadcast monitor.

    OSX 10.7.5 with a 3.39 Ghz Intel Core i7 on a built up Hackintosh
    16 GB of RAM with OSX on SSD, (2) internal HDDs RAID’d 1 for project files and External RAID 5 for all project assets (media, GFX, stills, etc.)

    Matt Campbell replied 13 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Tim Kolb

    July 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    The Flanders monitors are just excellent…and the JVC Verite series panels are very good as well. I’ve used them in a couple live multicamera venues, and I have been pleased.

    I think you would want to at least the panels you linked with a probe if you run it from your display card, to keep it in a predictable calibration.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Matt Campbell

    July 2, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Thank you. Do you have any experience or recommendations on a client monitor for a situation like this? I was looking at a Matrox box as well due to the calibration tools, but have read some things about issues with Premiere. Have use BMD products in the past and want to either stick with them or go to AJA. But I just need a TV/monitor that is good for editing and decent enough for web video color grading.

    OSX 10.7.5 with a 3.39 Ghz Intel Core i7 on a built up Hackintosh
    16 GB of RAM with OSX on SSD, (2) internal HDDs RAID’d 1 for project files and External RAID 5 for all project assets (media, GFX, stills, etc.)

  • Shane Ross

    July 2, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Panasonic Pro Plasma TV if you go the TV route. They are a tad more expensive than regular TVs, but large production houses use those as client monitors.

    But I too recommend the FSI monitors.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Matt Campbell

    July 2, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Thx. I’m leaning towards the Panny, but praying to the money gods for an FSI. Does anyone know of a place to get a good used broadcast monitor. FSI’s, JVC, Panasonic, Sony….?

    OSX 10.7.5 with a 3.39 Ghz Intel Core i7 on a built up Hackintosh
    16 GB of RAM with OSX on SSD, (2) internal HDDs RAID’d 1 for project files and External RAID 5 for all project assets (media, GFX, stills, etc.)

  • Tim Kolb

    July 2, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Monitors that aren’t utterly obsolete are hard to find used. Since they don’t need to be replaced every year like software, etc, most people run ’em into the ground unless the facility goes out of business.

    I have purchased many items (mics, portable mic mixers, shooting monitors, some lighting, etc.) from eBay…but you have to troll there a while and spend some time watching the types of item you want go by and see what they sell for…see what seems to make people bid like crazy…not bid at all…know what breaks and what doesn’t and what matters in whatever you want to buy (my Sennheiser MKH 416 and 816 both have etching on them from the original owners, but they work great) watch what factors indicate someone you want to do business with…and someone you don’t…etc. Using PayPal also at least gives you some leverage in the transaction.

    I only got burned on one piece of equipment bought used and it wasn’t through eBay…

    I’ve also had good luck walking into NAB ready to purchase and walk out…at the end of the show, some companies will sell you show display units at a high discount vs ship it back (I don’t know what Flanders does on this…I’m speaking generally). I bought many of my equipment cases this way.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Chris Borjis

    July 2, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Matt, right now in the creative cow classifieds forum is
    a 14″ Sony PVM-14L5. It has analog component in and
    can do SD & HD. I think he only wants $ 150 for it.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/38/871455

    I’m upgrading to Flanders sometime, but use a 19″ & 14″ PVM L5
    for color correction in my 2 suites.

  • Matt Campbell

    July 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Thanks guy. All very helpful. Going to try and get the plasma for now, and as I start doing more color critical work, maybe I can get them to approval 2-3K for a good one. appreciate the help fellas.

    OSX 10.7.5 with a 3.39 Ghz Intel Core i7 on a built up Hackintosh
    16 GB of RAM with OSX on SSD, (2) internal HDDs RAID’d 1 for project files and External RAID 5 for all project assets (media, GFX, stills, etc.)

  • Shane Ross

    July 3, 2013 at 12:04 am

    $150? Man, I paid $1800 for mine…used! Still have it though…plays HD and SD. Love that dang monitor.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Peter Corbett

    July 3, 2013 at 1:08 am

    I spent the last couple of weeks researching a monitor purchase after looking at all the options at Broadcast Asia. I ordered the new 32″ 10-bit FSI CM320 panel for the studio and the new FSI BM210 for field use.

    It’s sort of the expensive purchase that I’ve put off for so long now and I feel without the best monitoring, you just never can be sure of your grades or levels. The 32″ Flanders image looks gorgeous.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    http://www.php.com.au

  • Tim Kolb

    July 3, 2013 at 2:17 am

    My BVM 14e5u is still around…

    SMPTE C phosphors are just rock solid, even in an SD monitor that I power up like twice a year now…

    (it’s rated for 900 TV lines vs the later, HD capable PVMs with 800 TV lines…go figure)

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

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