Breakout to Mono Clips goes horribly wrong in PP2

[Mike Cohen]

presuming people are not talking over one another, I usually razor the track between speakers, and then use Fill Left or Fill Right to make the audio full track, and that works pretty well.

[Victoria Ellis]

Yes, that would be what I should do in future. But any ideas about how to fix the current problem?

I know that there’s now a function called Source Channel Mapping with lets you map the stereo channels to two monos, so you can edit each of them individually that way, but I can’t now do that with the broken out tracks.

I reckon that this is one of those really irritating bugs which only pops up when there are tight deadlines involved…

Just had a thought…any chance of this problem being caused by deleting the created folders (Conformed Audio, Encoded Files etc) so that the project isn’t so large to put on the network?

Victoria

[Alex Udell]

Hi Victoria.

So you’ve broken out the audio and I assume you’ve edited these to MONO trax on the timeline (you wouldn’t have much choice).

You now have a mono file of each participant.

When you load the broken out sources into the Source monitor are they ok?

But they are not OK on the timeline?

Is the timeline Stereo? Do you see Pan nobs in the Mixer?

lemme know…

[Victoria Ellis]

Hi Alex,

[Alex Udell] “When you load the broken out sources into the Source monitor are they ok?” Yes, whilst editing it initially, but not once the project is opened again after having been ‘cleaned up’ and put on the network.

[Alex Udell] “But they are not OK on the timeline?” No. They are fine on the timeline, whilst editing, but not subsequently (as above).

[Alex Udell] “Is the timeline Stereo?” Yes. Two mono tracks are created as well when I drag the broken out clips down.

[Alex Udell] “Do you see Pan nobs in the Mixer?” Yes.

Does that help with a diagnosis?!

Look forward to hearing from you,
Victoria

[Alex Udell]

Hi V,

How did you centere them originally?

Alex

[Victoria Ellis]

[Alex Udell] “How did you centere them originally?”Fill Left and Fill Right on both the tracks

[Alex Udell]

Hello Again,

“[Alex Udell] “How did you centere them originally?”Fill Left and Fill Right on both the tracks”

OK, here’s where I’m getting lost….

If I take a clip and break out the tracks to Mono.

Then I take the Mono Clips and edit them to a Mono trackon the timeline…

Premiere will literally not let me add the Fill Left/Fill Right effects to a mono clip. This is a Stereo effect.

When you edited the video clips to the timeline did your audio come along with it? If so, even though you broke the mono audio out, you still edited with the original stereo source to a stereo destination track.

Do you see two audio waveforms on your destination audio track on the timeline?
this would indicate thatyou editied with the stereo audio source, not the broken out mono.

NOW…

Having used the fill Left and fill right Audio FX to isolate your speakers in the stereo source….

Check the clips on the timeline to make sure that the filter is still there…

and check to make sure bypass is not checked….

Are you saying that the clips are iloated propoerly, but panned wrong?

Or that they are not isolated properly?

Thx…

Alex

[Dries Dc]

I’ve had that same problem, Victoria.
I couldn’t work it out either. Sometimes it happens after copyint the project folder and other times it works just fine…
It puzzles me.

[Victoria Ellis]

Hi Alex,

Sorry for having not replied for a while. I’ve had another look at the project, and they haven’t had ‘Fill Left’ and ‘Fill Right’ put on to centre them. I think that in this project, they were just broken out to mono clips, and put on the same timeline. This seems to have panned the audio to the centre, rather than hard left and right.

I’m still in the dark about what causes this, as we have tried deleting the Conformed Audio folders etc with other projects, but the problem did not replicate.

Never mind. In future, we will remap the source channels, so that we an edit each one seperately, without having to breakout to mono clips.

Thanks for all your help though!

Victoria