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John Rofrano
September 19, 2012 at 2:58 pmSorry we couldn’t figure it out. Please come back and let us know what works if you get it working so that others can benefit from it.
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Heinz Melus
September 20, 2012 at 8:19 amJohn, a last question. I don’t have a clear picture of the workflow. I can’t digitize 3 NTSC and 3 PAL-M VHS tapes with my equipent. All the rest is done. I suppose to give them to a local service company to digitize. Buying expensive equipment and or SW for 6 tapes only doesn’t make sense.
In my Vegas projects I want to include digitized pieces of these NTSC and/or PAL-M footage together with digitized footage taken by myself in PAL cameras.
Can I have in one project avi files coming from PAL & NTSC and render them together for the DVDA-5.2? Or do I have to order my tapes converted to PAL first and then digitized to avi by the service company and then use them in one VEGAS project?
Your advise is appreciated.Heinz
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John Rofrano
September 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm[heinz melus] “Can I have in one project avi files coming from PAL & NTSC and render them together for the DVDA-5.2? Or do I have to order my tapes converted to PAL first and then digitized to avi by the service company and then use them in one VEGAS project?”
You can mix PAL and NTSC in a single project but the NTSC footage will have black bars on the top and bottom because PAL has greater vertical resolution. If you are going to have a service digitize the tapes just ask them to place the DV AVI files on a hard drive. Then all you need to do is drop them on the Vegas timeline and optionally crop the NTSC footage to patch the PAL footage.
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John Rofrano
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Doyal Gudgel
October 1, 2012 at 4:10 pmI can tell you this from my sad experience. The standard burnt dvd or blue ray is not a good method for archiving media. In as little as 5 years a burnt DVD can be useless. I have lost thousands of jpg because the dvd went bad. Some as little as 5 years. What remained I have put on Gold Archive which is claimed will last 100 years. 2 bucks a pop. As I am already past 90 it is not likely for me to check out the performance What is needed is a dvd created like the commercial dvd’s. My guess is the reason we do not have one readily available now is they are making too much money with the present system. There is a sucker born every minute. Have a nice day.
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Heinz Melus
December 16, 2013 at 12:18 pmJohn? I would like to address you with another basic question I run into:
I got a VHS tape with records from 1991. They were made with a typical camera for 1991 for private use.
I captured the VHS tape through ADC300 with SceneAnalyzer and then imported it into Vegas 11. I got .avi clips, which are about the same quality as the VHS tape. Certainly no broadcast quality, but the persons movement are naturally. The film should be a gift to a friend from 1991, which I haven’t seen a long time.
Project settings were set to PAL. When I play the timeline, all is the same as the clips from SceneAnalyzer.
I rendered with MAINCONCEPT 2 for PAL. The quality gets a bit worse, but most unwanted is the unnatural movements of the people. I tried MC2 with the variable and constant bitrate, the highest available (9,800),but there is no big difference. I also used the recommended BITCALCulator, which showed 6579 rate. It didn’t help either. The size is about 1,5 GB.
The only close quality to the footage of the tape is, when I render it to .avi files. The size increases to 4,5 GB.
John, could you explain, are avi files the only solution for such cases? I have several more tapes from the same source. The only unwanted point with avi is the triple size of the ready film.Heinz
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John Rofrano
December 16, 2013 at 7:36 pmIt’s hard to tell what might be the problem. You can’t expect 8Mbps MPEG2 files to look as good as 25Mbps AVI files. It’s just not going to look as good. Still it shouldn’t look too bad. I’ve made plenty of DVD’s from DV AVI source and they look fine to me. Your description of people movements be unnatural leads me to believe you may have a field order problem. Did you play with the field order? What did you change from the defaults? You should not have had to change anything. Try and post screen shots of your project properties, media properties, and render template properties so we can see what’s going on.
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Heinz Melus
December 17, 2013 at 11:51 amThank you John. Properties are embedded. File name Properties for project
Maybe something went wrong with the upload???
LINK: 6918_propertiesforproject.pdf.zip
Heinz
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John Rofrano
December 17, 2013 at 3:27 pmThose we low resolution and very hard to see. In the future you should embed your images a full resolution right in your post.
I saw two thing wrong with your project properties:
- Why is your project set to 1/2 PAL frame rate? It should be set to 25fps.
- Also your deinterlace method is set to None but your source is interlaced. This is a recipe for disaster.
You need to select the default PAL DV project setting and don’t change anything. Make sure your deinterace mode is set to Blend Fields.
Here is how to post images:
Then:
~jr
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