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Bitrate too high. 13 gb video file making it work on a DVD.
Posted by Elliot Pollaro on April 12, 2007 at 12:49 pmI have a 13 GB quicktime video that i want to burn as a DVD, the reason its so big is because the quality, everytime i try and burn it i get bitrate too high errors. What do i need to set my DVD preferences to? I want to keep the quality and not have any pixelation. My only choice was to take it into compressor and convert the 13 GB file into a m2v Best quality 90 min preset. When i did that it put a lot of artifacts in my video once i viewed it on the DVD player. I need to have no artifacts and very good quality on my dvd, how should i go about this.
HELP!!! 🙂
Elliot
Rafael Amador replied 19 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 13 Replies -
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Russell Lasson
April 12, 2007 at 3:10 pmElliot,
What codec is the 13GB file? DV from your timeline?
The maximum bit rate for a m2v on a DVD is 8Mbs. To be safe I never go over 7.5Mbs because of playback issues on DVD players.
I know that several people have suggested that it is better to export your file from a FCP timeline, then compress it. At first I thought it was only a time savings. Then I remembered that the advantage of sending the file from your FCP timeline to compressor is that is will put compression markers at every edit to let compressor know that the picture it changing. In all honesty though, you’re probably won’t notice a big difference, but you might be able to tell if you look really really really close.
You might try adding the 4:1:1 color smoothing filter in FCP to the file before you compress it. From what I’ve seen, it looks like that could help smooth out some of the artifacts that you’re having.
I’m sorry your having such a pain the butt time with this.
-Russ
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Elliot Pollaro
April 12, 2007 at 3:16 pmwell honestly the only way i got it to look good was by exporting it with the Sorenson settings. The thing is though when i exported it from the FCP timeline my m2v settings were causing it to compress up.. and when i took it into the DVD program it compressed it even more. So now i exported it using the sorenson method and I have a 13 GB file thats good quality.. i cant get it on a DVD now.. its really driving me up a wall.
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Elliot Pollaro
April 12, 2007 at 3:45 pmi know that.. but when i turn it into a m2v it compresses it so much it pixelates… i need to have a good export setting.
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Russell Lasson
April 12, 2007 at 3:49 pmwell sending what you have to another compressed codec just to compress it again to m2v just doesn’t make sense to me.
Did you try the 4:1:1 color smoothing filter in FCP?
-Russ
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Rafael Amador
April 12, 2007 at 4:16 pmElliot,
You haven’t tell us yet in which screen your watching your DVD. If you are still with the Mitsubitshu, please have a look to this thread:https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/21/856322?univpostid=856322&pview=t,
If you are editing in DV, what Rusell suggest about to smothing the chroma is a very good idea. But to see the results you must set your time-line in a 422 codec. DV50 at least.
You can push the data rate of the DVD whenever you know that the DVD player will cope with it. You also can work with shorter GOPs This is useful for movies with a lot of movement. The compression can be better, but this also force you to use higher data-rate with the mentioned risks. However those processes need that you make few test because there is not a universal set-up.
You must take as well in consideration the audio you are using. Aiff it sound much better than .AC3, but increase a lot the total data rate.
Russell, I used to export to Compressor from the FC time-line because the “Compression marks” I think they are useful but I don’t like to set them by hand). Bu somebody ensured me that when exporting refference movies Compressor keeps the “compressor Marks” in all the cuts and transitions.
Cheers,
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Russell Lasson
April 12, 2007 at 4:39 pmRafael,
That’s cool if it does that. I’ll look into it a little more. Honestly, I don’t care too much though because when we really care about the quality of the encoding, we send it to someone that specializes in DVD encoding and that has software far superior to Compressor. So when I make DVDs, I’m fine with “good enough” or I send it to our specialist.
Elliot, if you want the best encoding you can get, higher someone else. We use Rivetal. http://www.rivetal.com. You could hire them to do it and depending on how you get them the file, they could still make your deadline.
If you decide to call them, ask for Jason and tell him you where talking with me about the whole thing. He might give you a better deal if you’re not a complete stranger.
-Russ
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Elliot Pollaro
April 12, 2007 at 4:43 pmwell i finally got it looking good on a small tv, the problem is when i bring it the big 62 inch screen. I know i need to upconvert it now… i believe that will fix my problem… now into that big pyle of mess i go. i appreciate all your help
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Russell Lasson
April 12, 2007 at 4:49 pmDid you decide how to play back the HD upconverted version?
-Russ
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Elliot Pollaro
April 12, 2007 at 4:55 pmIm still unsure on how exactly to upconvert the footage, for im new in shake and really clueless.. its a 62 inch DLP HD Mitsubishi Sccreen. I have a top of the line LG Dvd player as well. My FCP project is SD. It looks good now on small TV’s, its going to be presented on a this 62 inch tv though. So i need to get it to look good on it or its the noose for me.
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