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Big Shakeup At Apple – Scott Forstall Is Out
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More reporting and links here:
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/29/scott-forstall-reportedly-forced-out-of-apple/
and
https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/apples-mobile-software-and-retail-chiefs-to-depart/
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[Rafael Amador] “Can anybody explain me what’s the relation between “skewomorphic design” and making movies?”
Other than an icon that looks like a razor blade to signify a tool that makes cuts, a mixer that has all the visual flair of an actual plastic and wood mixer, or audio plugins that look like tubes or rack-mounted units, not much. VCR-like buttons, perhaps, for play/FF/RWD/REC. And that little red light, when you are recording, of course.
FWIW, its Skeuomorphic design, though it does sound like “skew.”
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[Chris Harlan] “Other than an icon that looks like a razor blade to signify a tool that makes cuts, a mixer that has all the visual flair of an actual plastic and wood mixer, or audio plugins that look like tubes or rack-mounted units, not much. VCR-like buttons, perhaps, for play/FF/RWD/REC. And that little red light, when you are recording, of course. “
I disagree. The same design attitude that wallows in the comfortable literalism of ugly skeuomorphic control surfaces is the same design attitude that ignores the science of color theory in a color-correction UI for the sake of comfortable simplicity. In so far as these are the tools we use for movie making, these design decisions affect us as movie makers. I will not miss Forstall’s influence on Apple UI design.
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Whoa. Disagree? I think you are reading more into my statement than I meant to have there. Sorry, if I was unclear. I simply meant give examples of where it exists in editing software, and to say that it doesn’t really add much value at all.
Personally, I tend to find skeuomorphism childish, especially when it is overdone. I don’t mind a little of it, though. I like a mixer that resembles and uses the conventions of a real world mixer. I like that busses look a little bit like busses, and that fader strips look a bit like fader strips. I don’t hate when it looks like a Yamaha or Mackie from twenty or thirty years ago, but at a certain point too much realism makes it look like a toy. It can also look like a toy when its too on the nose. The FCP Razor Blade has always looked toy-like to me, for instance.
I tend to hate audio plugins that look and function like racked equipment, especially when there are GUI metaphors that could offer much better control. I’m also not a fan of fake brushed metal buttons–say the Launch Pad icon, for instance.
But what I really hate–see I can get worked up about this if I want to–are goofy animations that parody unnecessary analog actions, which is sort of a meta-skeuomorphism. At first, page turns are kind of fun on an iPad–but, really? We need that? [ and, I don’t know. Maybe we do.] FCP X’s cutesy animations drove be buggy when I first encountered them.
So to sum up; I find some skeuomorphism useful, but more often than not, in poor taste. Conversely, I don’t think everything should like a Braun kitchen appliance, either.
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I agree with Chris that the first time, these things are cute – but having to do it every time gets old fast. I equate it to DVD menu authoring – some are so elaborate it takes many seconds to almost a 1/2 minute to get to the next step. The first time it’s part of the experience – but thereafter when I just want to watch the $!$#@! movie, just play the $!$#@! movie!
But I think interfaces can benefit for what is best at the moment of action – and it is not always a perfect recreation of its analog counterpart.
Michael
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There was no Secretary position in Politburo. Just Members and Candidates (non-voting members).
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This has a HUGE impact, because of the actual conversation that lead up to Scott’s dismissal!
Tim Cook, “Scott, I’m really excited about what we are about to bring to the Pro community!”
Scott, “forget the pro community, they are the past! we need to move onto the future! Implanting babies with microchips!”
Tim, “Umm, Scott I think it’s time you leave. How dare you even suggest such a horrible thing! To forget our pro users, forshame”
Scott, “Fine, I didn’t like working here anyway, it smells like diaper rash!”
Well, one can only hope that was the conversion.
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[Chris Harlan] “Whoa. Disagree? I think you are reading more into my statement than I meant to have there. Sorry, if I was unclear. I simply meant give examples of where it exists in editing software, and to say that it doesn’t really add much value at all. “
Oops! My bad. I completely misread your statement. Sounds like we’re on the same page 😉
[Chris Harlan] ” tend to hate audio plugins that look and function like racked equipment, especially when there are GUI metaphors that could offer much better control. I’m also not a fan of fake brushed metal buttons–say the Launch Pad icon, for instance.”
Ever play with Propellerhead’s Reason? https://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/
Flip the rack and use animated virtual patch cables! It’s the ultimate in meta-racked-audio-skeuomorphism!
At least you can make cool sounds with it…
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[Michael Aranyshev] “There was no Secretary position in Politburo. Just Members and Candidates (non-voting members).”
My apologies. I was just futzing around. What would the appropriate title actually be? Secretary of the Central Committee? General Secretary of the Communist party? I’m pretty fuzzy on Soviet politics. And my just-accomplished trip to Wikipedia has left me fuzzier.
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The big one was the General Secretary of the Central Committee of The Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The position originally was that of the literal secretary: handling all Central Committee paperwork. Stalin realised that control over papers equals control over the growing party bureaucracy and quietly snatched this seat while others were fighting for Ministerial (People’s Commissar) Portfolios.
Formally Soviet Union had all the signs of modern state: Supreme Council of the Soviet Union (Parliament), Council of Ministers and Supreme Court. Didn’t help a bit.
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