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Better snap up those Mac Pro towers while ye may
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You’re slow, ok…No need to be nervous, this will slow you down even further. I provided two links, one is for multiple GPUs to use in post production workflows not weird science projects, you see? Those are PCIe and they don’t have TB drivers. Get it? The other is a comparison (Do you know what “of the same calibre” means?) between a 6 drive RAID running on SAS and the other running on TB. There are others, as I mentioned before, that can have 8, 16 and so on, but they get capped over Thunderbolt, and It’s a shame its 2nd iteration won’t fix it.
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https://www.barefeats.com/hard167.html
Insight #1: The ARC-8050 posted the fastest transfer speeds of any Thunderbolt multi-drive enclosure we’ve tested to date.
Insight #2: Like all Thunderbolt devices, the transfer speed of 10 gigabit per second translates to something less than 1000MB/s — even if you load it up with eight 6Gbps SSDs capable of a combined speed of 4000MB/s. And, as you can see, even with eight 6Gbps HDDs capable of a combined speed exceeding 1200MB/s, they don’t come close.
On topic:
https://barefeats.com/mp12c346.html
Why go through this exercise when a new Mac Pro is imminent? Because many professionals are trying to decide whether to stick with their existing Mac Pro tower or replace it with the soon-to-be-released Mac Pro “un-tower.” If you have a significant investment in internal and external addons that are not compatible with the new Mac Pro, you may hesitate to make the leap to the new form factor. In other words, the cost of switching can be much more than the cost of the new Mac Pro itself.
As you can see from the results, the current architecture, though bus speed limited, is still capable of being pushed to go faster. And based on Geekbench results which ‘escaped’ for the new Mac Pro, a pumped up 12-core Mac Pro tower should easily beat the top 2013 12-core Mac Pro “un-tower” when running CPU intensive pro apps.
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You really are the biggest bonehead to show up here in a while. The AMD link you mention along with Apples move to AMD prompted me to pick up a new W7000 FirePro and give it a go. Resolve 10, Mavericks, Mac Pro etc. were not available at the time that article was written and I was using a Win7 64 workstation as was AMD – NOT A MAC!
In all my practical day to day editing, the AMD using OpenCL was sluggish in Premiere CC as compared to my GTX 570, a generations old gamer card using CUDA. So much so that it was not worth keeping the AMD and I sent it back. As Walter alluded to, comparing a W5000 to a K2000 is not a fair fight to begin with.
BMD (Grant Petty) saying the AMD stuff “screams” is great, but he did not say it was better/faster than their recommended multi CUDA card set-ups they require for high-end systems.
“Tweaking” was a just a general term, if you’re saying the FCPX programmers are doing nothing but updating to OpenGL 2 and voila! I think you’re a bigger idiot than you make yourself out to be…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Slightly OT, anyone tried origin pc’s? I found here: https://www.originpc.com/configurator/d/d1.aspx?SYSTEMID=9 that you can configure a dual 12 core xeon with two Titans, 128GB of ecc ram and four SSDs, for nearly 12K. It comes with good cooling, PCIes and no TB, but it is really tempting. Anyone knows anything about them? They have dual GPUs laptops also…interesting.
Santiago Martí
http://www.robotrojo.com.ar
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[Clint Wardlow] “I mean really. The OP was just a comment about how if you wanted a Mac pro with PCI slots you had better scoop them up fast. Doesn’t seem that controversial to me. I don’t see what all the hubbub is about.”
[Walter Soyka] “True! A useful public service announcement, courtesy of DRW”
Frankly, I’m kind of shocked that my announcement, purely designed to be helpful, instead started a big tussle. But, I guess tussling on a debate forum is to be expected. 🙂
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.comSales | Integration | Support
David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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[Andy Branner] ” I’m clearly a… wait… oh yeah… slow, bonehead idiot who’s posts need p*ssing on”
Finally — something we can all agree on.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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I rather think that a step by step design which has “interior lighting” as one of its early options isn’t making gear for the likes of editing professionals. If you’re avoiding “tomato soup cans” look at a buyer’s guide such as this one –
https://www.tonymacx86.com/393-building-customac-buyer-s-guide-october-2013.html .Pick the parts you want to make whatever level of machine you fancy. Put on whatever operating system you wish. Outside in the big world of the pc things change quickly and incrementally. You don’t have to wait for the next big announcement, just stick in a new bit – CPU, GPU, whatever.
Bernie
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It’s going to be guaranteed that a promax system will perform better than the mac tube. The configuration possibilities are undeniable.
I’ve been a mac guy for nearly a decade at home. This is my first job where we use PCs… and I’m really noticing the power…and the fact that Windows 7 is a very capable OS.
For now, though, I’m still clinging to my OSX.
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I’d be interested to see some input from Adobe on this as they are cross platform
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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I suspect that Adobe’s official stance will be “it’s great on both!” as they don’t want to alienate anyone. However, I thought it’s been the consensus for years that Adobe products perform better on Windows if the specs are evenly matched. If I could remember the URLs of such articles/tests, I’d link them, but these are things I’ve only casually paid attention to, so I don’t have them handy.
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