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  • Best way to export for Vimeo on Premiere/Media Encoder?

    Posted by Eric Ewing on June 22, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    With all of the options that are given when exporting video, I find it hard choosing the right one..
    Would anyone mind giving me any insight on how they export their media from Premiere/Media Encoder when it’s going to Vimeo/YouTube?

    This is what my current workflow looks like:

    Shooting on 5D Mark III with 100mm f/2.8 Macro IS

    (All my footage is tack sharp with raw straight out of camera)

    Import straight into Premiere Pro.. To make the sequence, I just right click one of my footage files and choose “Create Sequence from clip”, then I edit off of that sequence.

    After i’m done cutting and putting together, I grade and color correct with Magic Bullet Looks.

    Then I export with the “Vimeo HD 23.976” setting, and change it to VBR Pass 1, and I bring up the Target/Maximum Bitrate to 10 … Then export

    Now.. it may just be me, but I feel like when I compare how sharp my final video looks on Vimeo to other videos on Vimeo that I know are shot with 5D Mark II/III’s and equivalent lenses, I feel like mine never come out as sharp..

    Note** I’m not trying to say my footage doesn’t look sharp or doesn’t have awesome quality.. I just feel like i’m missing something to make it better..

    Here’s a reference video that I did for my church with the same workflow described above 🙂
    https://vimeo.com/65847825

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    Tim Kolb replied 13 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Ivan Myles

    June 23, 2013 at 12:25 am

    There are a variety of upload strategies such as using an Adobe preset, following the Vimeo compression guidelines, matching Vimeo’s encoding settings, or submitting a high bitrate file. In general HiP@L3.1, 10 mbps, and keyframe distance equal to frame rate should work well. Note that 2-pass encoding is OK (and preferred); you do not need to use 1-pass VBR. Also, in the export settings make sure Multiplexer Stream Compatibility is set to Standard; it defaults to iPod.

    Vimeo transcodes files using the x264 codec. Here is some info from your linked file (as per MediaInfo):

    Profile: High@L3.1
    Keyframe Interval: 72
    Minimum Keyframe Interval: 24
    Bitrate: 2500 kbps
    Max Bitrate: 3750 kbps

    The lowest risk approach is to upload a very high bitrate file. Vimeo accepts ProRes and DNxHD, but this might not be practical if you have a 500MB file size limit. You could upload an H.264 file with high bitrate and relatively low key frame distance (2-24 frames). It’s overkill, but you are assured that Vimeo will have the highest quality available for transcoding.

  • Ann Baldwin

    June 23, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Your video looks just fine to me, though the Magic Bullet Looks preset tends to give a softer appearance overall.

    Ann Baldwin
    https://annbaldwin.zenfolio.com/
    ‘Art Changes Lives’

  • Tim Kolb

    June 23, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    [eric ewing] “Then I export with the “Vimeo HD 23.976″ setting, and change it to VBR Pass 1, and I bring up the Target/Maximum Bitrate to 10 … Then export”

    The key issue here is that you call up the Vimeo preset…and then change it so it is no longer the Vimeo preset.

    Try it with the preset the way it’s designed as that is supposed to hit their spec enough to prevent transcoding (though I can’t tell myself if it does or doesn’t transcode).

    You’re also making the compression process less effective by dropping to one pass. The jacked up bitrate probably helps the image quality in lew of the second pass, but all these changes takes it far enough out of Vimeo’s spec that it ensures that Vimeo will transcode it again.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

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