Best tracker for AE??

[Todd Kopriva]

See this page for information about mocha-AE, which is included with After Effects CS4:

“Resources for mocha for After Effects (mocha-AE)”

When you say “Adobe lack of info on there site”, you make me wonder where you were looking. If you tell me where you were looking, maybe I can make things easier to find.

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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
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[Mark Linthicum]

Thanks for the reply,

i am looking on your site,

https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/features/?view=topnew

You information is very brief and seems to be geared towards the first time buyer.
As an AE user for over 6 years I want to quickly see what i am getting if I upgrade. i see a new planet tracker but how does it work?? You guys have always lacked this information and seem to rely on training that you have to pay for to get how this stuff works! you cant even figure i out if you read the manual!
Sorry getting worked up a bit about the subject, flashing back to trying to learn this software years ago.

Take a look as the new Final Cut Studio page, they have really complete movies to shoe you what is now and how it work!

Mark

Thanks, Mark

[Mark Linthicum]

So Mocha is included with AE 9??

This would be cool, i would have upgraded lang ago if i new this!

Mark

Thanks, Mark

[Todd Kopriva]

I think that you’re missing the point. After Effects CS4 comes with mocha. The documentation for mocha is in the mocha application. You don’t have to pay for any extra training. The page that I linked to also has some links to various free video tutorials and the like.

What more are you expecting?

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[Todd Kopriva]

So Mocha is included with AE 9??

Yes.

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[Mark Linthicum]

[Todd Kopriva] “What more are you expecting? “

only thing more I would expect is you do us all a favor and make this information accessible on the AE page! You would probably get allot more business. (how the heck do you find what you sent me?)
i looked for info on this when AE9 came out and could not find anything bout Mocha being included!

i will be upgrading tonight!

Thanks Mark

Thanks, Mark

[Todd Kopriva]

i will be upgrading tonight!

Great! I’m just sorry that you weren’t able to find what you needed sooner.

only thing more I would expect is you do us all a favor and make this information accessible on the AE page! You would probably get allot more business. (how the heck do you find what you sent me?)
i looked for info on this when AE9 came out and could not find anything bout Mocha being included!

The page that you linked to (https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/features/?view=topnew) has a section on mocha. It’s the third item down in the second column. It’s also mentioned on the new features page.

The page that I linked to is the first page in the “Tracking and stabilizing motion” section of the After Effects CS4 Help document on the Web.

In general, I recommend using the After Effects Community Help search to find details about After Effects.

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[Steve Roberts]

I like Mocha.

I once did a job where I had to paste text on flat surfaces in steadicam-style shots. When the crew was able to place enough markers to suit Mocha, it did the job quite nicely. However, when there weren’t enough markers in enough frames (e.g. when revealing the surface in the shot), I had to pull out Syntheyes and export its data to Cinema 4D. I was lucky that the Syntheyes shots had enough parallax-creating objects in the shot to make it work.

This is just a reminder that more than one tool may be necessary to do the job. 🙂

[Eric Goldstein]

Hi,

I’ve found that different trackers work best for different reasons. Mocha is a great tracker, and works well where you have an area you can track. When I have a situation where there are just points or small objects, I use AE’s internal tracker. It seemed to get better in CS3. Although, I always track things twice forward and backward and use an averaging script to get a smoother track. For more complex situations, particularly 3D, I’ve used Syntheyes and PF Track. Syntheyes has an overly complex, poorly thought out interface, but can work on some tracks. PF Track is great, but very expensive. PF Track has much better tracker than syntheyes.

I hope this helps,

Eric

Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
eric@giraffefilm.com