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  • Best settings to render 1920×1080

    Posted by Craig Argo on January 23, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    All I want to do is burn the best quality DVD I can with my footage.
    I’m editing in Sony Vegas Pro 9.0c (64 bit).
    I’m trying to use DVD architect Pro 5.0b to burn it.
    My footage is 1920×1080 at 30fps, File type is a .MOV, & the codec is avc1.

    My Vegas project properties are set to
    HD 1080-24p (1920×1080, 23.976 fps). I know the fps of my footage don’t match but the only other close setting is HD 1080-60i (1920×1080, 29.970 fps). I’ve tried using both and they seem to have the same results. Does it sound like I’m on the right setting or should it be another?

    I’m planning on burning to DVD so from what I gather rendering a MPEG-2 is the way to go right? So I go to Render as and select MPEG-2 and there are a ton of templates to choose from. I rendered the same project (with different templates but all from mpeg-2) so many times it ain’t even funny. There were only 2 videos that came out about the same and looked sharp. The two template settings were:

    Blu-ray 1920×1080-24p, 25 Mbps video stream
    -one change I made was sliding the (video quality) slider all the way to the right (making it 31)

    &
    Default Template
    I had to make some customizations though like…
    Aspect ratio, changed from 4:3 to 16:9
    Field order, changed from lower field first to none (progressive scan)
    I slid the video quality slider all the way to the right also.
    And I changed the bit rate settings to the same as the blu-ray settings which are:
    Variable bit rate
    Maximum (bps) 30,000,000
    Average (bps) 25,000,000
    Minimum (bps) 20,000,000

    Do these sound like the right rendering setting or should I try something else?

    Any way, moving along, in architect I thought I’d try using the blu-ray disc format in project properties because it has 1920×1080 resolution which is what I have but I don’t have a blu-ray burner. This might sound dumb but is there any way to use the blu-ray disc format to burn onto a regular DVD?? I’ve tried but I get this error:
    File name: STREAM/00001.m2ts
    Status: TSWrapper.dll::CTSWrapper::ProcThreadMain::Video buffer underflows. –

    If I cant burn a DVD with the blu-ray disc format it seems that I have to settle for the DVD format which is 720×480 at the highest. Either way I got to work with what I got so I have selected the DVD format along with 720×480 (NTSC) and have tried burning both my rendered blu-ray setting file, and my mpeg-2 default (customized) file and they both want to recompress.
    How do I prevent DVD architect from recompressing my videos? Is it because my footage is 1920×1080 and I’m going to DVD? Is the bit rate too high? Either way I’ve burned it anyway letting it recompress and it looks alright but not as good as the file on my computer. Maybe it’s close and I’m just paranoid about it recompressing but from my understanding that recompressing that architect does is making it lose some quality right?
    The reason I chose to render it as a mpeg-2 out of Vegas was so that it wouldn’t have to render again in architect.

    Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    John Rofrano replied 11 years, 4 months ago 11 Members · 54 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    January 23, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    [Craig Argo] “My Vegas project properties are set to HD 1080-24p (1920×1080, 23.976 fps). I know the fps of my footage don’t match but the only other close setting is HD 1080-60i (1920×1080, 29.970 fps). I’ve tried using both and they seem to have the same results. Does it sound like I’m on the right setting or should it be another?”

    You should be using HD 1080-60i (1920×1080, 29.970 fps) because 29.97fps is closest to 30fps of your source footage.

    [Craig Argo] “I’m planning on burning to DVD so from what I gather rendering a MPEG-2 is the way to go right? “

    No, I would use AVCHD because you will get more content onto DVD media and better compatibility with Blu-ray players (I assume you are trying to create a Blu-ray disc on DVD media for some reason). Remember that DVD media maxes out at 9,000,000 so you don’t want your bit-rate to be higher than that or you movie might stutter. I would use the Sony AVC format with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 10 Mbps video stream template or even the 8 Mbps template. I assume you have a Blu-ray player to play these. yes?

    [Craig Argo] “This might sound dumb but is there any way to use the blu-ray disc format to burn onto a regular DVD?? I’ve tried but I get this error:”

    I don’t think that DVD Architect supports writing Blu-ray format to DVD. You might want to just prepare the ISO file in DVD Architect and then burn it to DVD media with another program. Vegas Pro will make an AVCHD DVD from the timeline but you don’t get menus.

    [Craig Argo] “How do I prevent DVD architect from recompressing my videos?”

    You have to render them to a DVD compliant format not a Blu-ray compliant format if you want to make a regular DVD that plays in DVD players.

    [Craig Argo] “Is it because my footage is 1920×1080 and I’m going to DVD?”

    Yes. Why don’t you just buy a Blu-ray burner? They only cost $100.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Craig Argo

    January 24, 2011 at 6:09 am

    Thanks for the quick response John.
    It’s not that I’m trying to create a blu-ray disc on DVD media for any particular reason. It’s just that I’m trying to keep all the possible quality I can which wants me to keep it at 1920×1080 but I guess that’s not possible if I’m going to DVD? Right?

    I do have a blu-ray player but this project I’m working on is a short film that I want to submit to film festivals that usually require a DVD not Blu-ray and I just want to get these settings right to preserve all the quality I can.

    I’ll also try preparing the ISO file in Architect and burning it with another program.
    Thanks again. I really appreciate your time & help.

  • John Rofrano

    January 24, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    [Craig Argo] “I do have a blu-ray player but this project I’m working on is a short film that I want to submit to film festivals that usually require a DVD not Blu-ray and I just want to get these settings right to preserve all the quality I can. “

    Oh… if you are creating a “real” DVD to be played in a DVD player then forget about HD all together. DVD’s cannot play HD.

    You want to render your video using the MainConcept MPEG2 codec using the DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream template. Then render your audio as Dolby Digital AC3 Pro and give it the same name. Finally, use the .mpg and.ac3 file in DVD Architect to create your DVD for submission.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Craig Argo

    January 27, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Thanks John, that’s exactly what I did and it works great!

  • John Rofrano

    January 27, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Great! I’m glad that was what you were looking for.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Nelson Gama

    March 5, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Hello, I’m from Portugal. Please, I need your help! I need to know the best render settings to burn a blu-ray disc? My handycam is a Sony AVCHD.

    I’m finnished my project on Sony Vegas Pro 10.0 (I did transitions, music, titles, etc) and now I don’t know how to render…well, I don’t now what I must do next: if RENDER AS or BURN BLU RAY DISC or both?

    Which render settings I must use for 1920×1080 videos?

    In Portugal (Europe) we have the PAL System TV.

    I hope you can help me and thanks!

  • John Rofrano

    March 5, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    [Nelson Gama] “Which render settings I must use for 1920×1080 videos?”

    If you wan tto render a file to use in DVD Architect then use File | Render as…

    Render the video as:

    Save as type: Sony AVC
    Template: Blu-ray 1920×1080-50i, 16 Mbps video stream

    Then render the audio as:

    Save as type: Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro
    Template: Stereo DVD or 5.1 Surround (depending on your project)

    Make the filenames the same only with their respective extensions. Then open DVD Architect, create a new Blu-ray project and drop the video file onto the menu and the audio should come too.

    If you just want to burn a disc with no menus then use Tools | Burn Disc | Blu-ray Disc… with the same options above.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Nelson Gama

    March 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Hello John.
    Firt I would like to thank you for your help, but I did like you said, but unfortunatly it’s not possible to render audio as Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro
    , because I don’t have DVD Architect.
    So, I must render as Sony Wave64…but this is ok?
    Only that I want is to keep the original quality of my film (from Sony Handycam) and render it to Blu ray disc! I want my holiday film like a Blu-ray disc buyed on a store (high definition 1920×1080).
    Can you please help me with remote assistance (with teamviewer)??? I asked for your friendship on Facebook..I hope you can acept it or if you prefer send your e-mail adress to add you on my messenger.
    Thanks

  • John Rofrano

    March 6, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    [Nelson Gama] “So, I must render as Sony Wave64…but this is ok?”

    Yea, that will be fine. Just use Tools | Burn Disc | Blu-ray Disc… using:

    Video format: Sony AVC
    Video Template: Blu-ray 1920×1080-50i, 16 Mbps video stream
    Audio Format: Sony Wave64
    Audio Template: 48,000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo, PCM

    and that should do it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Nelson Gama

    March 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Hello John,
    Thanks for your help, but I have some dudes that I need your help.
    My project has 5.1 audio, which was filmed with my Sony AVCHD Handycam, as I said before, so with this audio settings (Audio Format: Sony Wave64 + Audio Template: 48,000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo, PCM), as you said, will work with my sound system 5.1??
    Another thing: the file that will result from the rendering process is a .ISO file, and as I seen before (an experience that I did) when I burned it into Blu-ray, I didn’t see the time rouler on my Blu-ray player from my living room, like the others blu-ray discs (films, etc). Why? It’s possible to solve this problem?

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