Best setting to export 480 24p out of FCP

[David Battistella]

If you are working in a 24P sequence then the best thing to do is export the 24P (24fps) timeline out of your NLE as a tiff sequence.

if you are exporting a 29.97 sequence then I suggest a DV Quicktime.

David

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[Graeme Nattress]

You’d get a gamma shift doing that David, and an unwanted YCbCr to RGB transform. You should be able to put the Media100 codec on the mac with the HD files, or use something like PhotoJPEG75% to do the transfer if uncompressed is too big.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Jeremy Garchow]

Graeme, is right. You can download the Media100 software codec from Media 100:

https://support.media100.com/KBSearch/kbDocument.aspx?id=379

The problem is that I don’t think Media 100 supports 24p at this time (but I could be wrong). If that’s the case, you should export a 29.97 file (quicktime should add the pulldown) into the Media 100 codec. Depending on which version/resolution of the M100 codec you choose to use, file size shouldn’t be too much of an issue. What format did you shoot, 24p Normal or Advanced? If you shot 24p Normal, then you are working in a 29.97 timeline and the 24p issue is moot. If you shot 24pA and are working in a 23.98 timeline, then you should add the pulldown to get a 29.97 file for media 100.

Jeremy

[Graeme Nattress]

Quicktime does not add 3:2 pulldown. If you need to do that as a render, my Standards Converter plugin http://www.nattress.com can help.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Mike Schrengohst]

“You’d get a gamma shift doing that David, and an unwanted YCbCr to RGB transform. You should be able to put the Media100 codec on the mac with the HD files, or use something like PhotoJPEG75% to do the transfer if uncompressed is too big.”

Grame, I was experimenting with this. Did excatly a YCBCr QT render from FCP 23.976 at PhotoJPEG at 75%…
Going to Vegas on PC it still looked dark. So I did an RGB render from Vegas and read some where to export Gamma .8 Brightness 5 Contrast 10,
That looked good going to Vegas and I exported a .wmv HD file that looked perfect. I always have trouble with the YCBCr renders from Vegas.
Thanks

[Graeme Nattress]

Vegas is inherently RGB I think. FCP mucks up the gamma exporting from YCbCr to RGB. If Vegas does a better conversion of RGB to YCbCr than FCP does YCbCr to RGB, then you’ll be better off letting Vegas do it’s stuff. Due to the silly gamma correction FCP applies on video decode to RGB, video will probably look darker and more accurate in Vegas.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Jim Calahan]

I spoke with my reseller and he stopped by to look at the video it looks like FCP isn’t doing to good a job with the 3;2 pulldown and we are looking into a plugin. Some things a camera or deck can help you with like the pulldown on ingest but in this fille based way of doing things like importing the 24p ( they were shot in the normal not advanced) the software needs a little more development.

[David Battistella]

If you shot 24P A mode then it is very easy to extract the frames when capturing the footage. It was designed this way. FCP can remove them on the way in onthe firewire stream, if you have set up a proper capture preset.

Do not insult the software if you are not using it properly.

David

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[Gary Adcock]

[Jim Calahan] “I spoke with my reseller and he stopped by to look at the video it looks like FCP isn’t doing to good a job with the 3;2 pulldown and we are looking into a plugin.”

You are correct– the adding and removal of pulldown is usually a hardware based solution.
My question is why, if this is a software based solution do you need it to be 29.97 rather than 24p? for Web and DVD delivery the 24p content is more efficient and in the case of DVD’s the pulldown is added back in via hardware.

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[Jim Calahan]

[David Battistella] “If you shot 24P A mode then it is very easy to extract the frames when capturing the footage. It was designed this way. FCP can remove them on the way in on the firewire stream, if you have set up a proper capture preset.”

It’s not 24p A it’s 24p Normal and it’s broll to be inserted into interviews that that were shot on DVC Pro50 tape at 29.97. It’s not my choice to shoot the footage that way but as editors we are often given assignments that we have to do the best we can with.

[David Battistella] “Do not insult the software if you are not using it properly.”

I’ll admit I’m not a FCP fan but it’s not doing a good job with the files as imported from the cards. Apple/Panasonic’s preferred way of doing this is to transfer via the camera or the deck/card reader that we don’t have, because we shouldn’t have to. Our files are transferred to a NAS from the P2 stores and this would mean copying the files back onto the cards and bringing the camera into the bay to ingest. I just wish that there were a better way now.