Best NLE for keyboard shortcuts?

[Thomas Frank]

Heer is my take:
Smoke – Tablet (muscle memory)
FCPX – Keyboard (fast)
Premiere (can’t say much sine it wouldn’t play any ProRes footage right)
Avid – keyboard & mouse (old school way)

[Andy Lewis]

So Avid is more mouse-driven than FCPX?

[Thomas Frank]

I don’t want to say it is more mouse driven then Avid since it always depends on your workflow, but after knowing all the FCPX hot keys I have more manuvering flexibility with the keyboard then in Final Cut Pro 7 and Media Composer 5.
In fact when Media Composer 5.5 hit (before Apple even mention anything about a new FCP) I requested a demo from Avid to show me a keyboard workflow I wasn’t really that impressed maybe bit more then FCP7 but not as in FCPX.

I guess yeah Media Composer more Mouse driven.

[David Cherniack]

[Thomas Frank] “Premiere (can’t say much sine it wouldn’t play any ProRes footage right)”

Uh..try to avoid genralizations that are misleading. I know plenty of Mac Premiere users who have no trouble playing ProRes files. The correct way to state your experience is “since it wouldn’t play any Prores footage right on my system.”

As for keyboard shortcuts in Premiere it has the vast majority of functions covered, but not all. However, the interface for them, while getting better, is nowhere near as good as the keyboard graphic that other NLEs have. This is a holdover from PrPro 1.0 and an an example of the Legacy effect that I’ve brought up in this forum before:

Whatever is in 1.0 of an NLE is hard to get changed. The focus of development is dictated by marketing and is on adding new features, not making old ones better, unless they really are a problem for the great majority of users.

David
AllinOneFilms.com

[Thomas Frank]

I am not generalization anything just saying I haven’t had tried Premiere (CS4) since we couldn’t to get the ProRes footage to play. The shop is in a ProRes workflow. Also I have mention this here at the Cow. 🙂

[Gary Hazen]

The fastest NLE is the one that you use all the time. With the keyboard mapping available in all the NLE’s it’s easy to put the power at your finger tips instead of the mouse hand. The hard part is building the muscle memory to execute the commands without pause.

[Timothy Auld]

Agreed. I can edit all day long in Avid or FCP 7 barely touching the mouse. Not so much with Premiere
and Vegas simply because I don’t use them often enough for the muscle memory to be there.

bigpine

[David Cherniack]

Well, exactly. On your system…whatever hardware + CS4 + whatever else you may, or may not, have been doing wrong. But Pr CS4 was not Adobe’s, or their third parties, finest hour.

David
AllinOneFilms.com

[Joseph W. bourke]

That’s a bit misleading, David –

There are built in keyboard layouts which can be loaded, and will match those of either FCP or AVID. Makes the transition almost brainless:

https://tv.adobe.com/watch/switching-to-adobe-premiere-pro-cs5/shortcut-keys/

Have you actually used PPro 5 or 5.5 for any length of time yet?

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com

[David Roth weiss]

[Joseph W. Bourke] “Have you actually used PPro 5 or 5.5 for any length of time yet?”

David C. has actually been using both for as long as anyone outside of those at Adobe.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

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