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  • Best format for DVD-sourced material in an XDCAM timeline

    Posted by Philip Owens on May 26, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Hi all,

    I’ve got a movie in XDCAM EX in front of me. I need to intercut DVD-sourced archival material, and I have the VOB’s extracted from the DVD’s for that. I came across a thread here from last year about ProResHQ vs. DV50, so I transcoded a few DVD-sourced VOB’s as both DVCPRO50 and ProResHQ as a test and there’s no question that ProResHQ looks much, much better, and has a smaller filesize (about three-quarters the size of DVCPRO50). However, the DVCPRO50 clip is ‘green’ when dropped into my XDCAM timeline, whereas the ProResHQ clip is ‘red’. What to do, what to do? Please don’t respond by saying I should transcode all the XDCAM material to ProRes- I know that, but I have no choice, that’s the way the project came to me and there’s no way back now. My goal is to preserve the highest quality image for the DVD sources so that at finishing we don’t have to recapture all the clips again, yet be able to cut with them without having to either A) render, or B) double-transcode into both ProResHQ for the finishing and an alternate format (DV50 perhaps) for editing.

    Thoughs > Napkin please, and thanks!

    http://www.philipowens.com

    Bret Williams replied 16 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    May 26, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Is the timeline set to render ProRes? I haven’t done it, but in XDCam timeline that’s an option. So if I remember right, the XDCam stuff would stay XDCam, and the new stuff would render as ProRes. Perhaps if you made that change, then the ProRes stuff wouldn’t be a red render anymore. Surely someone else can elaborate. I just saw the option. The XDCam stuff I’ve done stayed and rendered XDCam.

  • Philip Owens

    May 26, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Yes, timeline is set to render as ProRes.

    http://www.philipowens.com

  • Philip Owens

    May 26, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Let me add some additional info about my settings in case anyone is about to ask. Playback RT is set to Safe/Dynamic/Dynamic/Multiclip – I have a substantial amount of Multiclip media. Still Cache is set to 20%.

  • Bret Williams

    May 26, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Why does anyone use anything but unlimited? I’ve never wanted to use safe. You’ve got to render before output anyway. So it just hinders the editing experience. Too conservative.

  • Philip Owens

    May 26, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Hmmm….innnteresting. Yes, of course, you’re right – turning to Unlimited RT at least makes the ProRes HQ clip be orange, and it plays. I was dickying around with everything else and ignoring that one. That would work, I’m guessing…though I haven’t gotten to 14 tracks of audio yet, which I’m sure I’ll be at. For now, this is very helpful Bret, thank you.

  • Bret Williams

    May 27, 2009 at 6:24 am

    If you want more rt audio, just specify in your user prefs. Even on the old G4s I kept that setting at around 14.

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