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    Posted by Ron Dylewski on August 3, 2006 at 8:52 pm

    Hi –

    I figure this has been covered before, but I couldn’t find it when I searched the forum.

    Is there a definite set of parameters (CBR vs VBR vs 1 pass vs 2 pass) that will give me the cleanest file? I’m struggling with a piece that has to go out 640×480 (client’s request for PPT) and I just can’t get a decent looking file…

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Ron

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    Craig Seeman replied 19 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    August 3, 2006 at 9:13 pm

    Whoa, why exactly are you exporting to WMV for PPT? That seems way illogical to me.

  • Ron Dylewski

    August 3, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    David –

    I am doing this because that’s what the client wants. Trust me, this is not
    my idea and we have tried to change his mind, but he is a Windoz guy and will
    not budge.

    sigh…

    Ron

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  • David Roth weiss

    August 3, 2006 at 9:42 pm

    I can dig… I work with so many people who don’t get any of this stuff. Its can be so frustrating. Instead of asking me how to do it peoperly, they tell me how to do it wrong, and they demand I do it wrong.

  • Ron Dylewski

    August 3, 2006 at 9:47 pm

    Yup! They are very sure of how not to do it!

    Though I will commiserate with clients. It’s very confusing. I yearn for the “gimme a VHS” days. Now everyone wants 14 versions of every project in different formats. Then there are the inevitable calls from clients saying , “I can’t play it on my computer…” Yea, I have time for that!

    Cheers!

    Ron

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  • Craig Seeman

    August 3, 2006 at 11:41 pm

    You may need to know what your client’s computer can handle. I’d do 2 Pass VBR and a data rate of between 2000 and 4000 kbps if his computer is reasonably fast. You could push it more if you have to but again it depends on your clients horse power.

  • Johnw3d

    August 4, 2006 at 2:10 am

    2 to 4mbps for 640×480 video is pretty high in WM9, that’s getting up in the 720p range, but if you can afford the bandwidth, it should be just about visually lossless. If performance or download time is an issue, you should be able to get good results at 1.5mbps.

    I take it this is video, right? Or is it synthetic?

  • Rich Rubasch

    August 4, 2006 at 3:32 am

    WMV is a great video format for PPT since most of them play on PCs anyway and players are loaded on most machines and 640 x 480 can look great and play great in WMV.

    But here’s the rub…you WILL NOT get a 640 x 480 clip to look good out of Flip4Mac. It works great on the 320 x 480 stuff (think MPEG-1) but not on the full screen stuff. And remember you will most likely have PPT scale up the clip to fill the screen. I do this all the time so pay attention!

    I export an AVI uncompressed file out of FCP and take that via Firewire drive to a PC that has the free WMV encoder. Set it to about 2000mbps and be sure to deinterlace it. Play with the settings a bit, but you will get a fabulous clip that will impress your client.

    One last tip…be sure your clips fade in from black and out to black….then, add fades from the outgoing slide to the incoming slide after the clip plays and it will all play very seamlessly during the presentation.

    To review, I use Flip4Mac to make quick 320 x 240 WMVs for client approval right off the FCP timeline, but when it comes to full screen WMVs at 640 x 480 I export uncompressed AVIs (yes they are big, but will look great) to a firewire and encode on a PC…deinterlace, 2000mbps or so, multi pass etc and it will look fabulous and play nice on PCs. They will also play using the PPT player app, so users will only need a WMV player on their PC. However, these movies will not play on a Mac.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media

  • David Roth weiss

    August 4, 2006 at 7:21 am

    I read it wrong. My old editing system used PTT for “Print To Tape”. Yes, WM9 is a good choice for PPT. My bad…

    DRW

  • Ron Dylewski

    August 4, 2006 at 12:46 pm

    Rich –

    Thanks for the detailed info. I had resisted moving this to a PC and using the Windows encoder, thinking it would be faster to stay on my Mac, but, after screwing around for three days with this, I realize that was totally foolish.

    I’ll try you suggestions.

    Again, thanks for the help. This is exactly what I was after!

    Ron
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  • Craig Seeman

    August 4, 2006 at 1:29 pm

    [overeasy] “I had resisted moving this to a PC and using the Windows encoder, thinking it would be faster to stay on my Mac”

    Buy a MacBook or iMac and run Parallels.

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