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  • Best back-up utility for use w/FCP 4.5/5 files…

    Posted by Aaron D hose on June 14, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    Hi…was wondering which is the most widely used third party back-up utility for media created and stored within the FCP workflow. I am looking to start post work on a project using a few 500GB Lacie bigger disk extremes. I intend to start my edit in OfflineRT mode, but would like to know what is recommended when I actually start revisiting the tapes to redigitize in full res. It seems logical to use FCP’s Media Manager for this, to make copies of my hi-res files…but is there any third party software out there that does it automatically? I see that Lacie is bundling its 500GB drives with Extensis Portfolio 7 for an extra $100…consdiering the savings involved…is this a good idea?

    Thanks in advance.

    Bryce Whiteside replied 21 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • David Jones

    June 14, 2005 at 3:21 pm
  • Gunner Jones

    June 14, 2005 at 5:27 pm

    I don’t understand, why not just backup your project using your master tapes and the original project file? That’s the way I’ve always worked. Just keep your project files and master tapes in a safe place. I prefer a waterproof/fireproof safe.

    O&O-Gunner Productions
    FCP-Avid-After Effects

  • Bryce Whiteside

    June 14, 2005 at 5:42 pm

    Free software:
    https://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/
    https://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper/

    I use the following to backup up my system drive to another bootable physical drive including firewire drives. You can schedule it to make an image during off hours:
    https://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

    Commercial backup software
    https://www.dantz.com/ – I use Retrospect
    https://www.cmsproducts.com/product_bounceback_software.htm

    Just pick your firewire drive of choice.

    HTH,
    Bryce

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
    Final Cut Pro HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3
    Motion

  • Gunner Jones

    June 14, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    I’m still not getting it. Seems like a waste of time and money….

    Can you enlighten me as to why you would need anything but the project file and master tapes?

    O&O-Gunner Productions
    FCP-Avid-After Effects

  • Bryce Whiteside

    June 14, 2005 at 10:37 pm

    With one of the below you could make a client change without having to put the project back on you main storage. This of course only applies to DV, SD (standard definition video) and not HD.

    The current sweetspot in my research for harddrives is for 250GB. A good low street price for these are $150, so 4 x 250 = 1 TB storage for 4 x $150 = $600 excluding case or RAID case (1 time charge $240 to $500).

    Also the 500 GB RAIDed external firewire drives use two 250 GB like G-Technology https://www.g-raid.com/ and LaCie LaCie Big Disk 500 GB https://www.lacie.com/products/range.htm?id=10033. They use 2 x 250 GB and for example you could buy two 500 GB (1 TB) G-RAID Firewire 800 externals for the price of one of their 800 GB units. I prefer the G-Technology because they concentration on the same guaranteed sustained throughput for the entire drives.

    For backup I would consider something like these I just stumbled on https://www.cooldrives.com/miulra800dud.html. There are other well respected manufacturer of removal enclosure like Granite Digital https://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg22c_firewireidehotswapraid_2.htm or Wiebetech Micro https://www.wiebetech.com/products.php#storagesystems or https://tinyurl.com/3tqpc

    I would assume one of Aaron’s concerns might be quicker client response time–swap a couple of drives as oppose to insert tape, insert tape, insert tape, insert tape…
    As oppose to online all the time for clients, I would consider this near-online.

    The cost of harddrives–be they SATA or Firewire–has reach the point where they are commodities just the way raw tape was considered in the old days of production. I remember working for a broadcast post-production facility where we charged $200 for a D1 master spot reel tape for dubs which we kept and stored for our clients.

    Your method is great for long form video that has a limited distribution time window, but broadcast commercial production, infommercials and corporate videos may have a wide on demand distribution time window.

    Inquiring minds…
    Bryce Whiteside

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
    Final Cut Pro HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3
    Motion

  • Gunner Jones

    June 14, 2005 at 11:42 pm

    Hey Bryce. First of all, I need to know. Is that a quote from “Hazel”? 😉 It’s the only Mr. B I can recall.

    Next, I can see where you’d want quick access to old media. In a post-house environment where turnaround and changes are more the course of the day. I agree that drives are so cheap, so why not just leave the media on the drive and remove it from your machine or a FireWire enclosure and then slam in a new one?

    I used to use DLTs for backups at a post house I used to work at. Now that sure seemed like a waste of time.

    O&O-Gunner Productions
    FCP-Avid-After Effects

  • Bryce Whiteside

    June 15, 2005 at 12:54 am

    It comes from the third season of “Black Adder the Third” starring Rowan Atkinson
    Baldrick: Don’t worry Mr B., I have a cunning plan to solve the problem.
    Edmund (Rowan Atkinson): Yes, Baldrick, let us not forget that you tried to solve the problem of your mother’s low ceiling by cutting off her head.

    BBC Homepage
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/

    3rd party script site
    https://tvsothertenpercent.tripod.com/blackad/

    As funny as Monty Python…at least the first 3 seasons,
    Cheers,
    Bryce

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
    Final Cut Pro HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3
    Motion

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