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  • Walter Soyka

    September 4, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    From the Creative Cloud FAQ [link]:

    Do I need to be online to access my desktop apps?

    No, the desktop applications in Creative Cloud, such as Photoshop and Illustrator, are installed directly on your computer, so you don’t need an ongoing Internet connection to use them.

    An Internet connection is required the first time you install and license your apps, but you can use the apps in offline mode with a valid software license. The desktop apps will attempt to validate your software licenses every 30 days.

    Annual members can use the apps for up to 99 days in offline mode. Month-to-month members can use the software for up to 30 days in offline mode.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    September 4, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “What does the cost of the tool have to do with how effective the tool performs”

    Andrew,

    “How effective a tool performs” is one aspect of “the best tool”. Cost is another. “The best tool” is not defined solely in terms of how effectively it performs.

    [Andrew Kimery] “I don’t get saying that they’ll never, ever use Tool ABC. Just seems like you are setting yourself up to either eat your words or to make a bad decision just to try and save face.”

    Well, if you’re interested in David Mathis’ thinking on this, why not ask him?

    Franz.

  • Steve Connor

    September 4, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “I don’t think so. I think it’s 30 for late pays etc and only 2 when you cancel your CC “

    I’ve got a 60 day message on the odd occasion it couldn’t phone home

  • Lance Bachelder

    September 4, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    I agree – throwing Resolve at a grand into the mix is silly. Fact is with SliceX, I see no need to ever use Resolve again. I like the color tools, scopes and accurate delivery of FCPX and with SliceX I can power window away if needed. Also the built in FX, transitions etc in FCPX are far more useful than than what’s included in Premiere. I no longer need Colorista etc in FCPX and the variety of 3rd party FX etc for FCPX at affordable prices is stronger too.

    It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Downtown Long Beach, California
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

  • Bret Williams

    September 4, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Apples to Apples, what if you had to pay a subscription every time you wanted to view any of the raw files you shot with that red epic? What if you were doing this so often it was more feasible just to buy a red epic. But they didn’t allow purchases, just rentals?

    I do t know about you but I’m constantly opening old projects to output for potential clients, web demos. Or just to organize my hard drive. After 2 years of renting CC and CS6 and then cutting the cord a mere 4 months ago, it’s already annoying not having access to some of my AE projects. But there’s no client to bill as some mentioned they’d do if they had to. Shouldn’t the cost of our software already be built into the cost of our services anyway?

    FWIW I have had to pay a monthly once already to open and convert some files. I’m certainly not a full boycott. But I’m doing all I can not to send Adobe a single dime I don’t need to. I don’t want to be an enabler any more than I have to. I’m using as an opportunity. If I need it, I’ll pay. If at the end of the year I’ve spent more than $600 then perhaps I’ll subscribe next time. But if I don’t spend $600 then it’s a win. I’ve been buying plugins with my extra money every month already. And not rental plugins either. 🙂

  • Craig Seeman

    September 4, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    [Steve Connor] “They’ve promised “

    Untile they don’t. They’re in control and ultimately their business decision will prevail.
    Any reasonable exit strategy would allow you to have a functional copy on your computer for as long as you need if you terminate the subscription or… if they terminate the availability of an application.

    [Steve Connor] “If I choose to exit the Adobe subscription then If I need to access old projects I would bill the months subscription cost to the client.”

    And if this happens three years down the road because Resolve or Lightworks or even FCPX and fellow apps becomes the Suite of your dreams…. you’ll be dragging the subscription on month after month until all the revisits to the old jobs go away. The more years in, the more years they bite you on the tail going out.

  • Bret Williams

    September 4, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Even at $1600, I’d rather own. That’s exactly the kind of thinking that makes people lease cars or pay for extended warranties or jump on predatory loans. Our entire economy is going down this voluntary enslavement road and I do everything I can not to be an enabler. I don’t buy extended warranties or lease new cars. I pay my CC in full every month. I couldnt pay for CC another year and feel right about it. It’s not totally about the cost. It’s more about the shift of power. Some will never quite feel the same way about it.

  • Andrew Kimery

    September 4, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Andrew,

    “How effective a tool performs” is one aspect of “the best tool”. Cost is another. “The best tool” is not defined solely in terms of how effectively it performs.”

    We’ll have to agree to disagree on the semantics.

    To me the best tool for the job and the best tool for the job that I can afford are separate, though possibly related, discussions.

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Well, if you’re interested in David Mathis’ thinking on this, why not ask him?”

    I’m hopping he chimes in, but he hasn’t come back to the thread yet.

  • Craig Seeman

    September 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    [Bret Williams] “I’ve already had to rent a single software license for one month just to open and convert some files. And guess what? I forgot to cancel that 1mo subscription before 30 days and of course, they tagged me for another un-needed month. And they’re kind of counting on that. Of course, nobody sent me a reminder they’re about to charge me. Just a notification that they HAD charged me.”

    And the longer you’re in, the more projects you accumulatively, the longer that can keep happening after you leave.

  • Steve Connor

    September 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Perhaps we should merge both the “or not” forums! Lively discussion on here, tumbleweeds over at the CC or Not forum,

    Fact is that I want the CC tools in my toolbox more than I resent the rental model. I consider $600 a year (actually its more in the UK) a reasonable price to pay to have the option of using them, PPro is not my main NLE as my preferred choice on most projects is FCP X

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