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BBC adopts FCP X for news editing
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James,
It’s somewhat complex.
The CC subscription requires an internet connection. It “phones home” once a month to make sure you’re a valid subscriber. If so, nothing changes. if you haven’t paid or something goes wrong with validation, then nothing happens for a month. So it’s not instant lockout at all.
IF you allow the account to go down, then you’re “locked out” of your work if it was created with the new CC tools.
This is true of MOST of the suite.
They made an exception for the Lightroom customers, with some process where photographers can still access their Lightroom catalogs in limited ways even after a subscription termination. But the did not do that for the other aspects of the CC suite and specifically NOT for video editors.
So once you start editing in Premier, if you want to keep accessing your files indefinitely – the way things are set up currently – you have to subscribe forever if you want access to your work forever.
That’s how I understand it at least. Others will surely correct me if I’m wrong.
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[Craig Seeman] “There’s also the risk that if you need a legacy version for some reason at that future point, it may not be there. That’s entirely at Adobe’s discretion.”
They’ve promised to make legacy versions available to subscribers as updates occur, if they don’t and people can’t open their old projects even whilst subscribing to CC, then I imagine the user numbers will take a big hit. Same thing if they choose to increase the price to an unreasonable level.
If I choose to exit the Adobe subscription then If I need to access old projects I would bill the months subscription cost to the client.
I understand the objections and it would be better to have the option of perpetual licenses, but I want the apps on my Mac and I’m prepared to continue to pay to use them
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[Bill Davis] ” if you haven’t paid or something goes wrong with validation, then nothing happens for a month. So it’s not instant lockout at all.”
I think you’ll find it’s 60 days
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This seems to me to be business lunacy. I do not wish to be taken prisoner … especially if there is a choice.
A very outdated concept in these times.
And strange for a company that has always put the needs of its customers first… looks good on paper I’m sure but it’s a dictatorship no?
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[Steve Connor] “I understand the objections and it would be better to have the option of perpetual licenses, but I want the apps on my Mac and I’m prepared to continue to pay to use them”
Steve, that’s perfectly valid.
The critical thing is that there’s a robust discussion of the implications of all the options so that people don’t sign up and pay for something – either an owned program OR a perpetual rental option – and find out later that they did not fully understand all the ramifications of the choice they made.
Knowing the actual options and making the informed choice to adopt one or the other based on your personal circumstances is always valid.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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[Steve Connor] “I think you’ll find it’s 60 days”
Thanks for the correction, Steve.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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[James Ewart] “A very outdated concept in these times.”
I think actually, you’re going to find that it’s an extremely modern concept.
The big brains at huge corporations understand perfectly well that if you can get customers to accept an “op out” billing system where you can charge the customer even if you don’t provide them with any actual product update, customer service, or even any customer interaction at all other than a persistent auto draw directly from their bank – it becomes a massive profit driver.
This is the natural progression of the worldwide move to all electronic banking. And the larger companies and the larger banks are just following in the footsteps of the insurance industry who’s pushed for this from their customers for many years.
Set it and forget it and then you’ve got entropy working FOR the bank or corporation, rather than for the customer. Without that, you have to rely on marketing and advertising to drive sales. So each “sign up” comes with virtually guaranteed future earnings with “cost of sales’ pushed to very close to zero.
This is what companies are required by law to do. Enhance shareholder value. They are NOT required by law to provide customer value – unless management believes that by doing so they can demonstrably add to the bottom line.
It’s just how this stuff works. Period.
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FCPX, Motion, Compressor, Logic Pro X, Resolve = $1600. That’s your Premiere, After Effects, Media Encoder, Speedgrade comparison line. And you get Photoshop, Illustrator, Lightroom, InDesign as well as others that maybe you use and maybe you don’t. Whatever the case at $600 a year that’s 2.66 years of all those tools compared to the scope of what you get from Apple/BlackMagic only.
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Exactly. I did it for 2 years before I woke up. CS6 and CC. The longer it goes on, the deeper the hole and the bigger the stranglehold. We can yell and scream all we want, but the only thing that’s going to make them change their mind is going to be their bottom line. If people keep on enabling, Adobe, then other companies will follow suit. And we’re already seeing that elsewhere.
After jumping ship I’ve been using my CS5 suite. Still works. But I get files from others. I’ve already had to rent a single software license for one month just to open and convert some files. And guess what? I forgot to cancel that 1mo subscription before 30 days and of course, they tagged me for another un-needed month. And they’re kind of counting on that. Of course, nobody sent me a reminder they’re about to charge me. Just a notification that they HAD charged me.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Andrew,
There seems to be a general assumption here that ownership model isn’t part of the question of which tool is best.
Franz.”
I don’t think ownership model/cost plays into which tool is best. It might play into which tool I can afford, but the tool’s performance and the tool’s cost are two separate items. If I can afford to buy a Panasonic GH4 but not a RED EPIC that doesn’t automatically make the GH4 a better camera, that just makes the GH4 the best camera I can afford. Then the question becomes should I guy a GH4 or rent the RED EPIC…
I see a lot of people talking about the potential cost of subscribing to CC from now until the day they die but that’s just one possible outcome. Who says you have to use CC from now until the day you die? Why the assumption of a long term, monogamous relationship with your software (any software)? For example, last Nov I started a gig that had to be done on CC because that’s what they used. That gig lasted until August which means I more than recouped my subscription price for CC. If they need more work done in the future I’ll fire up my CC subscription again (maybe for a month, maybe for a year, it depends on how much work needs to be done) and the revenue earned will again more than cover the cost of the subscription. Flat out refusing to subscribe to CC would mean I left good money on the table plus the experience of working on a fun project with some great guys.
Will every situation be like the one I just described? No, but blanket statements about never using product X or Y unnecessarily limiting, IMO. Each situation is different and things change over time so I think keeping an open mind is the best policy.
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