BBC adopts FCP X for news editing

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Steve Connor] “I genuinely can’t understand why people are denying themselves a suite of very useful tools, just because it’s subscription only.”

Steve,

Why don’t you ask them?

Franz.

[James Ewart]

I don’t quite understand how they do that. Some kind of ticking time bomb and then the software becomes inactive?

Deal breaker for me.

[Steve Connor]

[Bill Davis] ” Because you end up paying about 1.5 times the price PER YEAR – for every year of your career – for access to the editing excellence that you would have paid for just once to own in FCP X.”

I like having the overlap, Premiere does some things better than FCPX and vice versa.

For me the cost is immaterial, I recovered the cost of the first years CC subscription within a month.

The magnetic timeline is great, but tracks have their use too, patching in PPro CC is much easier than it used to be and the trimming is better in CC.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] ”
That’s me speaking for me. YMMV.”

So if you find yourself in a situation where, for whatever reason, the Creative Cloud suite is obviously the best tool for the job will you subscribe to it or refuse to out of pride/spite/bottom-line damaging moral high ground?

I think Steve’s point is that some users say they will never, ever subscribe to CC no matter what and he questions the soundness of such an everlasting blanket statement. In the CC or Not forum I swear some of the people in there seem like they would rather close down their shop and stop editing forever rather than subscribe to CC. It’s no different than the people that say they’ll never, ever use FCP X because they are mad at Apple (and apparently always will be).

Just pick the best tool(s) for the job you can afford and go with it, IMO.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Andrew Kimery] “So if you find yourself in a situation where, for whatever reason, the Creative Cloud suite is obviously the best tool for the job …”

Andrew,

There seems to be a general assumption here that ownership model isn’t part of the question of which tool is best.

Franz.

[David Mathis]

My biggest concern with subscription only, from any company is the following:

A. A product or service could be dropped or no longer supported
B. The cost of the subscription could go up
C. Pay for products or a service I do not want or need. Could go the al a carte option but that ends up costing more in most situations.
D. No clear exit strategy, mainly no buyout option after a set time.
E. All of the above

By the way, I am subscribed to Red Giant Universe but they offer a lifetime membership. Right now I am on a monthly subscription level, the cost is very reasonable and I can upgrade to either an annual subscription or lifetime membership.

This is a business decision, nothing personal. I hope this brings some clarity to the discussion.

camera operator | editor | production assistant

Remember kids, tracks are you friends when you charge by the hour. Track Tetris, game on!

[Craig Seeman]

No longer have access to the apps, no longer can open project files.
One might save xml files I believe so one can reconsstruct elsewhere.
One might subscribe for a month to access the projects on a case by case basis.

Adobe has made the business decision to make it difficult to leave. It’s not the only way to manage subscriptions but it’s what Adobe chose.

[Craig Seeman]

To put it another way… if you decide CC is no longer the best tool but still need to open old projects at some future date… you have to subscribe. There’s also the risk that if you need a legacy version for some reason at that future point, it may not be there. That’s entirely at Adobe’s discretion.

[Bill Davis]

[Andrew Kimery] “So if you find yourself in a situation where, for whatever reason, the Creative Cloud suite is obviously the best tool for the job will you subscribe to it or refuse to out of pride/spite/bottom-line damaging moral high ground?”

I’ve already answered that elsewhere. I have a CC Lightroom bundle subscription. Actually I have TWO of them due to the cock-up of the servers being down when I tried to subscribe originally and the billing system entering me twice. (I have to get that sorted out, thanks for reminding me – paying $20 a month for a $10 service is kinda silly.)

That said, you can bet that the moment I can see a non-subscription alternative that comes close (APPLE, Hurry with Photos and make it GREAT!), I’m gonna get the pliers out and remove that credit card fishhook asap.

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[Scott Witthaus]

[David Mathis] “B. The cost of the subscription could go up”

I think there is no doubt the cost will go up at some point. Get them hooked and raise the price….or else! 😉

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter