BBC adopts FCP X for news editing

[Brett Sherman]

I will say when FCP X first came out I was not convinced about the timeline. Then finally gave it a test run and I decided it would make my work faster, so I jumped in. But it takes open-mindedness and willingness to question whether the way you used to do things really is best. I just don’t think all editors have that.

I think FCP X can work for longer format videos also. The longest I’ve done is around 20 minutes, so I’m no expert on that. It does have a tendency to get bogged down on longer projects sometimes which I think for many is a concern.

[Richard Herd]

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Richard Herd] “A: This guy, and then for quite some time after that. You can save money 🙂 https://www.wimp.com/numbersinfinity/
“

Wow. I’m not quite sure what to do with that information. lol

[Redefined Media]

I use FCPX, really like it.

Redefined Media

Video Production Sydney

[Andrew Johnstone]

This thread seems to have got way off topic from the original post about BBC using FCPX! For what it is worth I have talked FCPX with my editor at BBC and he mentioned that they were trialling it in news, but I haave not heard that features In BBC regions) were going go adopt it. They still use FCP7.

I have jumped in at the point about GPU issues for Premiere Pro and Resolve. This is what I am struggling with right now and it has been mentioned on several threads including Here and on the Adobe forums.

I am running Mountain Lion and PP has just stared misbehaving. I am not fond of the subscription model as unless I am actually cutting a film, I don’t need the software every day. I still run CS6 which has been, until this week, my replacement system for FCP7 and I have been very happy with it. However, the glitching (Along with multiple crashes) issue has crippled my project and I have had to rebuild the edit from an XML file in FCP7.

This brings in the massive issue of support. If either of these apps (PP or FCPX) are going to be rolled out across organisations like the BBC or ITV, they will need to be rock solid. The issue such as the glithces in PP because of the CUDA driver issue (see thread above) will cause major chaos if they are not resolved quickly – and judging from the threads on this matter they have not been. I suspect that the BBC is just being very cautious. It knows that FCP7 just works – all be it slowly.

The other issue I am sure BBC is weighing up, like many of us is whether or not they can trust the software company. Apple dumped 1000’s of broadcast edit studio clients in the pooh when they dropped FCP7. How do we know that FCPX will not go the same way? At least Adobe is a dedicated software company, but having said that the speed at which they have addressed this CUDA bug does not inspire confidence.

Andy Johnstone
Wild Dog Limited
film & multimedia production
http://www.wilddogworld.com

[Oliver Peters]

[Andrew Johnstone] “I am running Mountain Lion and PP has just stared misbehaving…
…This brings in the massive issue of support. If either of these apps (PP or FCPX) are going to be rolled out across organisations like the BBC or ITV, they will need to be rock solid.”

In order to be rock solid you have to be on the latest OS. That’s part of the rub with frequent software updates via the cloud or other means. The latest fixes also require the latest OS versions. This tends to be a nightmare in large enterprise environments.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Andrew Kimery]

[Andrew Johnstone] “Apple dumped 1000’s of broadcast edit studio clients in the pooh when they dropped FCP7. How do we know that FCPX will not go the same way?”

And Avid hit some financial/internal problems which caused them to get delisted from NASDAQ for about a year and Adobe, to some, made a show stopping move by going subscription only. No one knows the future and, IMO, there’s no reason these days to put all your eggs in one basket. Sure, 10 years ago it was difficult (if even possible in some cases) to have multiple NLEs inhabiting the same machine, but these days they all play pretty nice together.

[Andrew Johnstone] “At least Adobe is a dedicated software company, but having said that the speed at which they have addressed this CUDA bug does not inspire confidence.”

AFAIK the CUDA problem isn’t Adobe’s to fix. It’s a driver problem so that means Nvidia, and possibly Apple, has to address it. Some users are also having problems running GPU accelerated apps like Resolve and PPro on the new Mac Pros (which have AMD, not Nvidia GPUs).

[Dennis Radeke]

[Bill Davis] “The CC subscription requires an internet connection.”

Enterprise customers such as the BBC have other several options. You can find out some more details here: Creative Cloud for Enterprise

[David Mathis]

Thanks for sharing. I am interested in Photoshop, what are the options?

[Bill Davis]

Not sure what licensing options were in play 9 months ago when this discussion originally occurred.

In ongoing contact with my friends like Ben King, a senior editor at the BBC, X is doing just fine in the parts of the wider BBC empire where it’s deployed. As likely is Premier.

That they make accommodations in how their software is billed to “significant” customers as opposed to you and I is certainly nice for the larger customers. Be nice if you and I had the same flexibility.

And of course, as far as I know, Apple makes similar “ease of access” arrangements to enterprise wide adoption of X into multi-seat facilities.

Only real difference is that Apple sells permanent “one time purchase’ seats – and Adobe
does not. At least to individuals and at least when it comes to Premier Pro.

FWIW

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