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  • Andrew Kimery

    September 5, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    [Richard Herd] “Can you force a validation?

    Suppose I’m going on a remote shoot and I want Prelude as my DIT. Connected to wifi at the airport, validate the apps, close up and fly.

    That’s a good question, though if you subscribe to a year of CC you have a 99 day grace period before the programs have to phone home again. Previously Adobe has said that they will handle extenuating circumstances on a case-by-case basis so if you know you are going to be working at the North Pole for a year w/out Internet give Adobe a call prior to the trip and you might be able to work something out.

  • Brett Sherman

    September 6, 2014 at 7:44 am

    I think FCP X really is the perfect editor for fast turnaround news pieces. Where it runs into resistance, and I know this anecdotely from one TV station, is when the senior editor doesn’t like the magnetic timeline and trackless arrangement. The lower cost of FCP X may overpower some of this with ad revenue on a downward trajectory. It will be interesting to see what happens as TV stations are going to have to upgrade their software in the next couple years.

  • James Ewart

    September 6, 2014 at 10:50 am

    “the senior editor doesn’t like the magnetic timeline and trackless arrangement’

    I think of lot of us probably fitted into that category at the outset.

    What I find a little odd is what it is about the software that people seem to imply is not suitable for anything other than fast turnaround pieces.

    What specifically. I wonder makes people think it’s not suitable for a thirty, 60 or 90 minute piece? A documentary or a feature?

    My take FWIW is that this is again the Premiere and Avid community trying to explain away their initial resistance about its being fit for purpose so now seem to be trying to explain it away with phrases like “oh it’s okay for news items but… “

  • Oliver Peters

    September 6, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “In the long run this is really bad news for Adobe and Avid because as FCPX proves itself viable in a wide variety of settings it kills the others at $299 per seat!”

    You are making the assumption that the others are being sold at retail to large organizations. That’s not the case. In fact, often, the unit price for the NLE software is far below Apple – especially when it’s a larger package, like a full Avid installation with Isis, Interplay, etc.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    September 6, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Regarding the BBC, everyone might want to go back and reread the comments at the end of the article. A couple of BBC staffers have weighed in with some clarification of what they felt were inaccurate assumptions made in the story.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 6, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    If there’s one thing to be learned through all the debate forums, is that there is no accuracy, especially in the numbers.

    The BBC uses everything, the right tool for the right job. The tools and jobs will change, that much is guaranteed, and life continues.

    I mean, Aindreas plunked down his credit card for subscription, and all of us made it through. We are still out here, working, at least for now, until the multicam robots take our jobs, and cloud editing shifts the gigs to the most cost effective regions of the planet.

    Godspeed, titans. Life is short.

  • Steve Connor

    September 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “and cloud editing shifts the gigs to the most cost effective regions of the planet. “

    Some of the work on a feature I’m editing at the moment has gone to one of the “cost effective” regions for Post, they only charge 15% of the day rate here in the UK and their work is excellent. We should all be worried!

  • Chris Harlan

    September 6, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Do you do the E-Bay thang when you want to change phone services too? Or a gym membership? My current subscription is way cheeper than what I pay for both of those. If I go to full price it will STILL be cheeper than those. Considerably so.

    Look, I get that you don’t like the model. Its not my favorite, either. But Adobe’s not going to change their mind, and this is getting a little broken-recordy.

  • Chris Harlan

    September 6, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Steve Connor] “I genuinely can’t understand why people are denying themselves a suite of very useful tools, just because it’s subscription only.”

    Steve,

    Why don’t you ask them?

    Franz.

    LOL! Now, now. It’s not like they’re not saying it loudly and in BOLD ALL CAPS at every available moment. And, I happen to agree with Steve at this point. Of course, he and I both regularly use other systems as well, so some of the same fears aren’t there. But this thing’s done. Adobe’s not changing direction. Its what they want to do with their tools. Boycotts aren’t going to change it. As Steve says, I genuinely can’t understand why people are denying themselves a suite of very useful tools, just because it’s subscription only.

  • Chris Harlan

    September 6, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “[David Mathis] “B. The cost of the subscription could go up”

    I think there is no doubt the cost will go up at some point. Get them hooked and raise the price….or else! 😉

    Or else? Well, the else would be abandoning the tools for one or more of the many other options out there. There’s nothing new to being vulnerable to a vendor’s caprices.

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