Baseband video out of FCPX? Ever?

[Bob Zelin]

at this moment, there are no hooks for Matrox, AJA, Blackmagic, MOTU, CAT DV, or anything else, other than “mirror desktop image”, which sucks. Will Apple ever change this – if any Apple employee ever even hinted at this (or anything else) happening before it’s release, they would be fired, so no matter what rumor you hear, it’s not true until Apple does a formal release.

If I were you, I would start brushing up on my Adobe Premier or AVID Media Composer skills. With that said, almost 100% of the people that I know are simply doing nothing, and are going to continue to use FCP 7, until it doesn’t run on new computers.

bob Zelin

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Devin Crane] “Now the blogs are backpedalling that there won’t be any baseband video at all just preview through Macintosh Desktop. Is this true?”

Who’s “the blogs”?

[Gary Adcock]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Who’s “the blogs”?”

Not mine.

I have been pretty adamant about the need for Lion and Thunderbolt to go forward.
We are talking about 100’s of millions of dollars in the FCP eco-system, I doubt that anyone wants to walk away from 10 years of development.

I also doubt that much of the previous generation of connectivity hardware will be useful in 2-3 years. It is VERY clear that Apple’s FCPX is not looking backward- so why should the hardware vendors?

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, IL

https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

[Devin Crane]

No not your’s Gary. What may have been assumed from the Apple meeting with execs in London that current PCI-E cards would work with FCPX and that doesn’t seem to be the case.
https://alex4d.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/notes-from-apples-london-pro-briefing-on-final-cut-pro-x/
Now Matrox has come out and stated that there won’t be Professional monitoring with FCPX. Hopefully this changes, I like FCPX for the most part. After downloading MC5.5 and realizing it won’t be long before they go through the same thing as FCPX with a new 64bit MC6, I’m sure they have learned somethings from Apple in the mean time. The GUI reminded me of OSX9 definite need of an Update. Powerful yes but a dinosaur in regards to workflow, IMHO.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Matrox said this? No way.

In version 10.0 maybe, but I’m sure they didn’t say FCPX will have no baseband support ever.

Thunderbolt!

[Devin Crane]

“FCP X does not support professional video monitoring. For full-screen, preview-quality output you can use the second DisplayPort output from your computer in Full Screen Mode. The audio outputs of the MXO2 devices can be used for audio monitoring.”

https://heathmcknight.com/2011/07/matrox-adds-tape-captureoutput-monitoring-solutions-for-final-cut-pro-x-compressor-4/

Thunderbolt looks cool but man I just bought 2 new Mac Pros, maybe there’s a work around to add TB via PCI-E.

[Bob Zelin]

Devin writes –
Thunderbolt looks cool but man I just bought 2 new Mac Pros, maybe there’s a work around to add TB via PCI-E.

Devin –
what is your obsession with having to work with FCP X only. There are LOTS of other programs on the market, and FCP X is not the end all to be all. Sonnet Technology has shown a PCIe extender chassis for Thunderbolt, so you can use AJA cards (and everythign else) with a Thunderbolt interface, but let me bet you $1000 right now, that you will NEVER EVER see a Thunderbolt PCIe card for your existing MAC Pro’s. If Apple ever releases a new Mac Pro, this will most certainly have a Thunderbolt port on it (from the motherboard), but you are going to be OUT OF LUCK with your wonderful new purchase of your Mac Pros (which are of course wonderful computers). I am not aware of one single person who is making a living with FCP X, and I am not counting on this, or it’s future interfaces to make a living either.

Bob Zelin

[Jeremy Garchow]

Right now it doesn’t, but there is no word of the future. Perhaps they should have added “at this time” but maybe that violates some sort of strict Apple rule.

I’m holding tight for Lion, then the first FCPx update. If nothing is announced or no news about connectivity after that time, I’m off to greener pastures on the AJA farm as the FCP7 suite is aging by the minute.

[Devin Crane]

[Bob Zelin] “what is your obsession with having to work with FCP X only.”

Because I actually like it, so shoot me! I don’t need XML, EDL, OMF, I work in a studio environment where most of my source footage is already mastered. All I need is an editor that will render a 58:30 with lots of graphics in less than 6 hours and store metadata. If in a year FCPX doesn’t do broadcast monitoring among a handful of other things then yes I’m going to Premier or MC6 if it’s out by then. After working with MC5.5 I realized it won’t be long before they have to do the same thing and re-write the whole code into 64bit, I’m sure it’s a beast but man it;s long in the tooth as far as the GUI goes.

[Nick Toth]

I recently queried Larry Jordan about AJA and Blackmagic and got this reply:

“As of now, video out from FCP X is not possible, according to both Blackmagic Design and AJA.”

While I would say this is a non-answer because it doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know note that the qualifier “as of now” is basically the same as “at this time” which Jeremy mentioned.

Having edited nonlinear for nearly 20 years I look forward to where FCP X is going. Avid and Premiere have never been my cup of tea. FCP X is a lot more powerful right now than many give it credit for (given my two weeks experience with it).

NT