AVID project moving to FCP

[Grinner Hester]

man, buying a quick copy of FCP and off-lining with it would save more money than any other solution.
A CMX3600 edl will work but you’ll need to ensure your reel names are 5 characters or less. You also don’t wanna do more than 4 audio tracks, use any plugins, filters or transistions.

I’d save the client some money and just online from the get go on FCP. They’ll love ya for it and it can almost all be billed to the budget of this one project.
Kind of a no brainer now.

and to think people use to offline on FCP to online on an Avid.
🙁

[John Pale]

Remember…if you do decide to go the EDL route, you need to make separate EDL’s for each video track you use.

EDLs are old and were only meant to convey what was possible in a linear tape based edit suite.

[Phil Byrd]

Thanks Grinner.

I’ll use the CMX 3600 option as I’m in the PC world in my shop.

But you can’t believe how many of many of my colleagues say I should get FCP. But they aren’t interested in buying me a MAC on which to run it. And the IO box, etc, etc.

The good news is that my timeline will be simple, only two audio tracks, and small reel numbers.

Do we all remember when we put our EDLs on big 5.25″ floppies and took them to a CMX 340x which would choke if there was a reel number beyond 340? Things have changed!

pb

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Phillip Byrd
Brandenburg Productions, Inc.
Montclair, NJ USA

[Bob Zelin]

Phillip writes –

“Do we all remember when we put our EDLs on big 5.25″ floppies and took them to a CMX 340x which would choke if there was a reel number beyond 340? Things have changed! ”

Well, Phillip, since I am older than you, I remember when we put our EDL’s on 8″ floppy disks, and loaded original CMX systems with paper tape loaders. Do you know what this means ? It means that if you don’t KEEP UP with current technology, like FCP, and Adobe products, Red Camera workflow, P2, XDCam EX, etc., you will be unemployed soon, remembering the “good old days” of linear editing, when you had a GVG300 switcher, and a bunch of 1″ VTR’s.

Buy FCP and stop this nonsense.

Bob Zelin

[Scott Cole]

2″ editec…. wtf is an edit list??? Oh that yellow pad a Production Assistant brought to the tape room.

M. Scott Cole
Senior Post Production Editor
60 MINUTES
CBS News, NYC
sc6@cbsnews.com
mscottc@comcast.net

[Phil Byrd]

Sorry Scott. You have not really suffered unless you have been forced to work with the RCA “TEP” editor and a couple of TR-70 quad machines. Ampex Editec was a dream compared with TEP. Holding your breath through at 14 second pre roll could be very painful.

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Phillip Byrd
Brandenburg Productions, Inc.
Montclair, NJ USA

[Grinner Hester]

as can a 9th layer preread in a house that recycles digibeta masters.
lol
holding your breath hoping against a digital drop out was no fun.

Man, editing use to be some hard work.

[Scott Cole]

Hence using a second digibeta just to record each layer in clean tape as you kept pre-reading. Always give yourself an out.

M. Scott Cole
Senior Post Production Editor
60 MINUTES
CBS News, NYC
sc6@cbsnews.com
mscottc@comcast.net

[Terence Curren]

If you absolutely insist on this painful workflow, then spring for Automatic Duck’s “Pro import FCP” plugin.

https://www.automaticduck.com/products/pifcp/

It will make your life infinitely better than trying the EDL route. Worth every penny in time savings.

Terence Curren
http://www.alphadogs.tv
http://www.digitalservicestation.com
Burbank,Ca

[Job Ter burg]

I disagree a little here.

I’d always recommend to stay on one or the other, I agree on that, but I would not necessarily recommend going FCP all the way over Avid all th way. Obviously, some here would (this forum is crowded with FCP evangelists), but IMHO, why not use a different post house, or why not use your own Avid all the way? If you prefer to offline in Avid, find a workflow that lets you do that.

As an offline/film editor I would feel silly forcing myself to use a certain piece of software (for a considerable amount of my creative time, I might add) just because I need to be compatible with whichever facility out there uses to conform/online. It needs to be the other way around. And any decent post house that onlines on FCP needs to have Automatic Duck anyway, or they don’t mean serious business. IMHO.