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  • Avid media composer 8.5 GoPro & C300 sync

    Posted by Phillip Jacob on June 22, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Hey guys & girls.

    I’ve got a lot of GoPro and C300 material that I need to sync up.

    My normal workflow, is to link, consolidate (relink), and then manually sync all the clips, used Plural eyes before but that dosen’t seem to work with 8.5.

    A side note, the gopros seems to get off sync randomly after a while, is that because of the camera or? – At the beginning it is synced perfekly but after maybe 2-5 minuts its out of sync.

    Is there any chance that there is an easier way to do this?

    Phillip Jacob replied 10 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 34 Replies
  • 34 Replies
  • John Pale

    June 22, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    What frame rate are the cameras shooting at?

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    25 fps

  • Michael Phillips

    June 22, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    The latest version of PluralEyes no longer support AMA, so it is not so much an MC version issue than it is a PluralEyes dropping support.

    Sync that drifts indicates either picture or audio are at slightly different rates – either fps for picture or sample rate for audio. What is the nature of the drift? One frame every _____ seconds? Picture ahead of audio or audio ahead of picture?

    Michael

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    It might be the go pros audio?

    Next time I’ll check the One frame every ___ seconds.
    Its the go pros sound and picture one frame ahead of the c300 and external sound.

  • Michael Phillips

    June 22, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    The GoPro sound may be the culprit. When you AMA link to the GoPro media, go to Source Settings, Playback TAB and see what it thinks the source might be. In that tab, there is a menu that allows you to select source rate, or project rate. Even if the same, select Project to see if that changes anything.

    Michael

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    I can’t change the frame rate, it won’t let me. 🙁

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    Could it maybe be that the go pro is interlaced and c300 progressive?

  • Michael Phillips

    June 22, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    That could be – using something like MediaInfo on the GoPro clips would give us insight into frame rate, sample rate , codecs, p or i, etc.

    https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

    Michael

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    Generelt
    Fulde navn : /Volumes/Tom 12Tb disk/11/newfiles/newfiles/16_06_11_GoPro_Jørgen_Cangs_de_Onis_Klostret.mxf
    Format : MXF
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM HD422
    Formatversion : 1.2
    Formatprofil : OP-1a
    Formatindstillinger : Closed / Complete
    Filstørrelse : 4,34 GiB
    Varighed : 11min.
    Samlet bitrate : 52,5 Mbps
    Kodet den : 0-00-00 00:00:00.000
    Skrivende program : FFmpeg OP1a Muxer 57.25.100

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM HD422
    Formatversion : Version 2
    Formatprofil : 4:2:2@High
    Formatindstillinger, BVOP : Ja
    Formatindstillinger, Matrix : Standard
    Formatindstillinger, GOP : M=3, N=10
    Format_Settings_PictureStructure : Frame
    Format_Settings_Wrapping : Frame
    Codec-ID : 0D01030102046001-0401020201040300
    Varighed : 11min.
    Bitrate : 50,0 Mbps
    Bredde : 1.920 billedpunkter
    Højde : 1.080 billedpunkter
    Størrelsesforhold : 16:9
    Billedfrekvens : 25,000 fps
    Standard : Component
    Farverum : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
    Bitdybde : 8 bits
    Skantype : Sammenflettet
    Skanorden : Bundfelt først
    Komprimeringstilstand : Lossy
    Bits/(Billedpunkter*Billed) : 0.965
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 00:00:00:00
    TimeCode_Source : Group of pictures header
    Strømstørrelse : 4,13 GiB (95%)
    colour_primaries : BT.709
    Overførselskarakteristika : BT.709
    Matrix-coefficienter : BT.709

    Lyd
    ID : 3
    Format : PCM
    Formatindstillinger, Endianness : Little
    Format_Settings_Wrapping : Frame (AES)
    Codec-ID : 0D01030102060300
    Varighed : 11min.
    Bitratemodus : Konstant
    Bitrate : 2.304 Kbps
    Kanaler : 2 kanaler
    Samplingsrate : 48,0 KHz
    Billedfrekvens : 25,000 fps (1920 spf)
    Bitdybde : 24 bits
    Strømstørrelse : 195 MiB (4%)

    Andet #1
    ID : 1-Material
    Type : Time code
    Format : MXF TC
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 00:00:00:00
    TimeCode_Settings : Material Package
    TimeCode_Striped/String : Ja

    Andet #2
    ID : 1-Source
    Type : Time code
    Format : MXF TC
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 00:00:00:00
    TimeCode_Settings : Source Package
    TimeCode_Striped/String : Ja

    Andet #3
    Type : Time code
    Format : SMPTE TC
    Muxing-modus : SDTI
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 00:00:00:00

  • Phillip Jacob

    June 22, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    and my MXF from c300 if necessary:

    Format : MXF
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM HD422
    Formatversion : 1.2
    Formatprofil : OP-1a
    Formatindstillinger : Closed / Complete
    Filstørrelse : 1,90 GiB
    Varighed : 5min.
    Samlet bitrate : 51,8 Mbps
    Kodet den : 2012-08-28 10:06:19.000
    Skrivende program : CANON EOS C300 1.00

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM HD422
    Formatversion : Version 2
    Formatprofil : 4:2:2@High
    Formatindstillinger, BVOP : Ja
    Formatindstillinger, Matrix : Tilpas
    Formatindstillinger, GOP : M=3, N=12
    Format_Settings_Wrapping : Frame
    Codec-ID : 0D01030102046001-0401020201040300
    Varighed : 5min.
    Bitrate : 50,0 Mbps
    Bredde : 1.920 billedpunkter
    Højde : 1.080 billedpunkter
    Størrelsesforhold : 16:9
    Billedfrekvens : 25,000 fps
    Standard : Component
    Farverum : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
    Bitdybde : 8 bits
    Skantype : Progressiv
    Komprimeringstilstand : Lossy
    Bits/(Billedpunkter*Billed) : 0.965
    Strømstørrelse : 1,84 GiB (96%)
    colour_primaries : BT.709
    Overførselskarakteristika : BT.709
    Matrix-coefficienter : BT.709

    Lyd #1
    ID : 3
    Format : PCM
    Formatindstillinger, Endianness : Little
    Format_Settings_Wrapping : Frame (AES)
    Codec-ID : 0D01030102060300
    Varighed : 5min.
    Bitratemodus : Konstant
    Bitrate : 768 Kbps
    Kanaler : 1 kanal
    Samplingsrate : 48,0 KHz
    Billedfrekvens : 25,000 fps (1920 spf)
    Bitdybde : 16 bits
    Strømstørrelse : 28,9 MiB (1%)

    Lyd #2
    ID : 4
    Format : PCM
    Formatindstillinger, Endianness : Little
    Format_Settings_Wrapping : Frame (AES)
    Codec-ID : 0D01030102060300
    Varighed : 5min.
    Bitratemodus : Konstant
    Bitrate : 768 Kbps
    Kanaler : 1 kanal
    Samplingsrate : 48,0 KHz
    Billedfrekvens : 25,000 fps (1920 spf)
    Bitdybde : 16 bits
    Strømstørrelse : 28,9 MiB (1%)

    Andet #1
    ID : 1-Material
    Type : Time code
    Format : MXF TC
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 11:01:43:22
    TimeCode_Settings : Material Package
    TimeCode_Striped/String : Ja

    Andet #2
    ID : 1-Source
    Type : Time code
    Format : MXF TC
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 11:01:43:22
    TimeCode_Settings : Source Package
    TimeCode_Striped/String : Ja

    Andet #3
    Type : Time code
    Format : SMPTE TC
    Muxing-modus : SDTI
    TimeCode_FirstFrame : 11:01:43:22

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