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  • Lance Bachelder

    April 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Everyone on the Cow knows – if you want to introduce/update/evangelize for any NLE other than FCPX, this is yer forum 😉

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Chris Harlan

    April 10, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Hey, maybe the announcement will be Smoke for Windows NT!”

    And, if they do, they apparently still have another whole two years on the platform. Apparently MS just announced that they will be ending all XP support on April 8, 2014.

    https://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/microsoft-starts-xp-retirement-countdown-190532?source=IFWNLE_nlt_firstlook_2012-04-10

  • Walter Soyka

    April 11, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    [Michael Horton] “I’ve also had the pleasure of seeing it. It really does change everything. It’s no hype. It will be shown at the SuperMeet as well as on show floor.”

    For anyone attending NAB and interested in seeing Smoke at the SuperMeet, there are only about a hundred tickets left. Get ’em before they’re gone.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Herb Sevush

    April 11, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “For anyone attending NAB and interested in seeing Smoke at the SuperMeet, there are only about a hundred tickets left. Get ’em before they’re gone.”

    As someone who owned Discreet products in the past (edit* & combustion) I would like to state for the record that in my opinion Discreet / Audtodesk is the most dishonorable, disingenuous, disagreeable and disloyal company I have ever dealt with. The way you can know whether they’re lying or not is if you can hear them talking. They are the Goldman Sachs of the video industry; they will not hesitate to screw their own customers to make a buck, and they’ll laugh about it later. I am not saying their products are worthless, I’m saying their management is. If you are going to do business with them, I suggest you wear a rubber.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Alan Okey

    April 11, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “As someone who owned Discreet products in the past (edit* & combustion) I would like to state for the record that in my opinion Discreet / Audtodesk is the most dishonorable, disingenuous, disagreeable and disloyal company I have ever dealt with.”

    I agree completely.

    Great products, great developers, despicable management. They make Apple look like an amateur when it comes to abandoning or killing great software.

  • David Jahns

    April 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    [Alan Okey] “”As someone who owned Discreet products in the past (edit* & combustion) I would like to state for the record that in my opinion Discreet / Audtodesk is the most dishonorable, disingenuous, disagreeable and disloyal company I have ever dealt with.””

    Wow – you sure you guys aren’t talking about Avid in the 90’s? 😉

    Granted, I’m new to the Autodesk scene, but in the 6 months I’ve been using Smoke on Mac, I’ve been quite happy with them. They’ve helped with extended trial periods, tech support, training, etc…

    This certainly doesn’t address issues with product lifecycles and other big picture issues, of course…

    Avid certainly has gotten better in the last few years – now my biggest beef is with Apple. Who would have thought that, just a short time ago?

    David Jahns

    Joint Editorial
    Portland, OR

  • Alan Okey

    April 11, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    [David Jahns] “Granted, I’m new to the Autodesk scene, but in the 6 months I’ve been using Smoke on Mac, I’ve been quite happy with them. They’ve helped with extended trial periods, tech support, training, etc…”

    There’s a veritable world of difference between Autodesk Media & Entertainment’s (formerly Discreet’s) “desktop” and “systems” products. The “systems” products are the big-ticket products like FFI (Flint, Flame and Inferno) and Smoke. Support for the systems products has always been excellent.

    The people who got screwed were mostly those who purchased the products that mere mortals could afford, like *edit or Combustion.

  • Joe Murray

    April 11, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    “Although, it doesn’t look like an intuitive interface, but whatever, I can handle it!”

    It’s not something you can just noodle around in and figure out completely on your own without reading the manual or working through some tutorials or training, but once you learn the interface, it’s very efficient and artist-oriented. Light-years ahead of FCP, Premiere or Avid in terms of interface design, with gestural controls and contextual menu panels all over the place that make floating windows and multiple screens unnecessary. I loved working on it when it was only available on Unix, and would certainly consider it if it became affordable.

    Unfortunately none of my clients would pay more to work on a $15k platform vs the combo of FCP and After Effects, otherwise I would have made the leap sooner.

    Joe Murray
    Edit at Joe’s
    Charlotte, NC

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 11, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    [Joe Murray] “It’s not something you can just noodle around in and figure out completely on your own without reading the manual”

    What? Manual? It has a manual? That’s so 1999.

    Just kidding.

    With great power comes great responsibility.

    Jeremy

  • Joe Murray

    April 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    [Joe Murray] “It’s not something you can just noodle around in and figure out completely on your own without reading the manual”

    “What? Manual? It has a manual? That’s so 1999.

    Just kidding.

    With great power comes great responsibility.”

    Actually, I never read the manual either, but you’re right it was 1999! When I worked on Smoke they flew a nice French Canadian fellow in from Montreal for a week to train me. That was included in the $350,000 pricetag I guess. How things change. I’m assuming I would be forced to read the manual this time around.

    Joe Murray
    Edit at Joe’s
    Charlotte, NC

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