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Audio Monitoring Upgrade Questions
Posted by John Griffin on January 3, 2012 at 8:35 pmHi All,
Over the holidays been reading up on previous post about studio monitor setups. John R had a good response back in 2010 about using Firewire connectivity and using the M-Audio brand.
I am to the point of needing to do some voice over work, so I do need to be able to connect an external mic.
The real question for me here is, once i get all this set up, how does one calibrate these monitors to the audio meter in Vegas? Not sure if I’m asking this right.
I’ve been just keeping all volume settings on current speakers and windows volume at middle, probably not right, but that is why I’m asking.Thanks,
John
John Rofrano replied 14 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 15 Replies -
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John Rofrano
January 4, 2012 at 1:01 amI would recommend that you get your audio at the correct level using your VU or an RMS meter for the delivery format you use. In other words, if you’re delivering for broadcast and require audio at -24dBFS, you should set you audio to that first. Then adjust your speakers to sound comfortable at that volume. This will train your ears to listen at the correct volume.
You also want near-field monitors to be as far appart as they are from your head. In other words, if you are sitting 4 feet in front of the speakers, then the speakers should be 4 feet from each other so that they make a 4’x4’x4′ triangle with your head at one point and the speakers at the other two.
~jr
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John Griffin
January 4, 2012 at 1:18 amThanks John.
Guess I was over thinking this a little. I thought I had read where some were using test tones or something to adjust monitors, wasn’t real clear to me.
I did look up the M-Audio 610, is this still a good choice?
As far as the 610 directions on connections and routing, not clear to me, but in time.
Thanks for all you contribute here.
John
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John Rofrano
January 5, 2012 at 2:42 am[John Griffin] ” I thought I had read where some were using test tones or something to adjust monitors, wasn’t real clear to me.”
You most certainly could (and should) use test tones to adjust your monitors providing that you also purchased the equipment needed to measure those tones and make adjustments. You would nee a microphone and a VU meter to check when the VU from the mic matches the VU from Vegas. If all you have is your ears, test tones won’t help much.
[John Griffin] “I did look up the M-Audio 610, is this still a good choice? “
Yes, as long as your computer has a firewire port. Some newer computers are starting to not include them so just make sure you have a firewire port to plug it into.
[John Griffin] “As far as the 610 directions on connections and routing, not clear to me, but in time.”
It’s just like the sound card in your computer. You’d need to buy a set of powered speakers like the M-Audio Studiophile BX5a/BX8a Deluxe that will plug into the back of the 610. Then just plug your mics into the front of 610 and you’re ready to record and monitor. In Vegas you can select the ASIO drivers for the 610 in the preferences and that tells Vegas to use that audio device instead of the one on your motherboard.
~jr
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John Griffin
January 5, 2012 at 4:09 am[John Rofrano] “You most certainly could (and should) use test tones to adjust your monitors providing that you also purchased the equipment needed to measure those tones and make adjustments. You would nee a microphone and a VU meter to check when the VU from the mic matches the VU from Vegas. If all you have is your ears, test tones won’t help much.”
Not much luck on finding a small vu meter.
[John Rofrano] “Yes, as long as your computer has a firewire port. Some newer computers are starting to not include them so just make sure you have a firewire port to plug it into.”
Yes, do have firewire port. Built total new machine, need to put my specs on here:-)
[John Rofrano] ” You’d need to buy a set of powered speakers like the M-Audio Studiophile BX5a”
In the cart. May be a stupid question, but what about low end? Do I need a sub? Or will these cover that too.
John, thanks for taking the time to help.
John Griffin
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John Rofrano
January 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm[John Griffin] “May be a stupid question, but what about low end? Do I need a sub? Or will these cover that too.”
A sub woofer is always nice. I have one on my main workstation and it really does make a difference, but the speakers I have (StudioPhile LX4) aren’t made anymore. I use the Studiophile BX5a Deluxes on my son’s MacMini and they sound great for mixing. The bottom end is decent but not like having a sub. The nice thing is, the sub can be added later and the M-Audio SBX10 sub allows you to plug any M-Audio CX and BX Deluxe series monitor into it. Get it now if you can afford it. You won’t be sorry.
~jr
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John Griffin
January 5, 2012 at 5:12 pmJohn,
Thanks for the response. Spent some time last night on the M-Audio site and learned a lot. I’m just about there.
So I found SPL meters last night, is this the right thing to use?
I have the test tones that were included with the VASST training dvd’s, how do I go about using them? If I use the -10db tone, according to the directions for the spl meter you want your level set to 75db?
Sorry for all the questions, but I am learning something, which I probably should have done first.
Thanks for all your help.
John
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John Griffin
January 6, 2012 at 1:53 amIs this on the right track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQZfVSm35us&list=FLUJYwOk5dHyWHRtN51ufaQg&feature=mh_lolz
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John Rofrano
January 6, 2012 at 2:20 pm[John Griffin] “Is this on the right track?”
That’ll work fine. In fact, I was going to mention that I had downloaded a iPhone app that measures SPL’s. 😉
~jr
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John Rofrano
January 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm[John Griffin] “I have the test tones that were included with the VASST training dvd’s, how do I go about using them? If I use the -10db tone, according to the directions for the spl meter you want your level set to 75db?”
As stated in the video you posted, you want to use -20dB as your reference and you want to use Pink Noise. I don’t know if the VASST DVD has pink noise but you can generate one with Sony Sound Forge.
~jr
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John Griffin
January 16, 2012 at 4:59 am[John Rofrano] “As stated in the video you posted, you want to use -20dB as your reference and you want to use Pink Noise. I don’t know if the VASST DVD has pink noise but you can generate one with Sony Sound Forge”
John,
Things are coming in as we speak. One question for you, we talked about pink noise -20db, but you had a response to Kelly Griffin, in July 2011, about studio setup using a -20dB test tone at 400Hz. Can you educate me on the difference and why one over the other for calibration?
Thanks,
John Griffin
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