Audio editing in FCPX

[Charlie Austin]

[Herb Sevush] “I don’t doubt that you find this a great way to do your work, but for an “outsider” here’s the thing – you’ve just mentioned connected clips, primaries, expanded clips, comps and secondaries – all to describe something that in any other NLE is done without any of them. I’ll take your word for it that it’s fast and efficient, but if it takes that long just to describe it, I’ll stick to clips and tracks.”

Well, FWIW, try describing how to cut in FCP 7 or Pr or MC to someone who doesn’t understand how it works and you’d probably get the same reaction. In practice it’s really easy. I understand it sounds convoluted. It’s not. As I said, I’m cutting in 7 today (or I should be lol) and it’s way more complicated.

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[Richard Herd]

Is this useful? https://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.1/#ver4e2fcf0

[Aindreas Gallagher]

you can do that tho – the issue is with secondaries no? or do you mean a paste action as opposed to an overwrite?

edit – i just booted it up – actually why in the sweet hell can’t I set in out points on a connected clip above the primary? Is that actually the way things are?

io keyboard selection still only exists on the primary? I even got that stupid dot onto the connected clip? I set io and I just watch it select the primary every time. I wanted to declare an edit in out range, not V1 clip range select. oh good sweet christ the stupid. man this thing.

I don’t use it enough but my. god. almighty.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

I haven’t gone in for this in a long time, and I do apparently hate, with little skill, every other editing system bar legend,

but of all of them X is the only one where X proponents can sit there mashing nails, muffins and pipe fittings together, hold the lump up and go – see? it works a treat, you just have to get your head around it.

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[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “but of all of them X is the only one where X proponents can sit there mashing nails, muffins and pipe fittings together, hold the lump up and go – see? it works a treat, you just have to get your head around it.
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Is there really ANY chance you could NOT keep ridiculing the people that use FCP X and try confining your lyrical hatred to the software itself.

Steve Connor
Mellowing slowly

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “io keyboard selection still only exists on the primary? I even got that stupid dot onto the connected clip? I set io and I just watch it select the primary every time.”

No, it did just what you wanted it to. What you to do? The I/O range, like any NLE, effects the entire timeline. Your edit will effect whatever you target. Primary, secondary, or connected. FCP 7 puts the I/O range in the time ruler, do you feel that’s stupid? I mean, I don’t want to cut something into the ruler, why is it putting marks there?!? 🙂

Jesus, come to LA, I could show you all this stuff in about 5 minutes. It makes perfect sense unless you’re trying to have it act like something it’s not….

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Charlie Austin] “so I must be doing something wrong.”

no charlie – you know the thing. I’m just unwilling to go through that.

[Charlie Austin] “All I know, is that I am cutting today in the perfectly realised, nicely ordered, beloved FCP 7 timeline. It is awful. “

no its not. It’s still better than the guild protected lunacy of avid, it’s less preferable than premiere CC – but it’s still in its bones a class act.

bachelder pause

FCP was a classy, decade long transformative gift. Apple built it like they meant it. with a team to match. it’s an old aircraft carrier, but they did build an aircraft carrier.
do you think there is a similar squad with X. or that some stuff really needs to get fixed.

aperture is apparently probably dead as of yesterday. not that anyone says that happily.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “no its not. It’s still better than the guild protected lunacy of avid, it’s less preferable than premiere CC – but it’s still in its bones a class act.”

OK, “awful” was hyperbole, but I really would prefer to be doing this in X, it is orders of magnitude gooder. I used to beta test good old “classic” so in some small way, I helped make it what it was/is. But there’s a better way and it’s hard to un-see it once seen. 🙂

[Aindreas Gallagher] “do you think there is a similar squad with X. or that some stuff really needs to get fixed.”

I know there is a similar squad. I also know that some stuff really needs to be fixed. But some things that people think need “fixing” really aren’t broken. Just different. Despite all it’s uh, nuances… FCP X feels the most like FCP 7 when I’m cutting in it. Perhaps hard to believe, but it’s true…

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Charlie Austin] “The I/O range, like any NLE, effects the entire timeline. Your edit will effect whatever you target.”

that’s actually not true. someone help me out here. i can overwrite to the primary, and the in out selection visible on the primary can be used to create a connected clip with those in out marks. but who cares – it looks stupid the minute the software declares the selection IO as live on the primary and then allows the action to take place with a new connected clip insert command. mind you -what about the connected clip that was already there over the primary that I wanted to overwrite. no you fool, I can’t use the IO marks on that – it’s not the bloody primary.

god the mad stupid.

apple only knows how to present the IO selection on the primary, because its the primary, apple don’t know how to make an audio overwrite, because they made VA lozenges that don’t allow it. apple knows a set of preset things they have burned into the timeline.

the issue is with the lack of space outside the declared dunces prize primary. that there is no real extant timeline.

(sorry bud – old hits charlie 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “i can overwrite to the primary, and the in out selection visible on the primary can be used to create a connected clip with those in out marks. but who cares – it looks stupid the minute the software declares the selection IO as live on the primary and then allows the action to take place with a new connected clip insert command. mind you -what about the connected clip that was already there over the primary that I wanted to overwrite. no you fool, I can’t use the IO marks on that – it’s not the bloody primary”

I don’t know why I bother, but if you want to “overwrite” a connected clip, just mark a source I or O and replace it. if you want the clips over the primary to act like a track that you can happily overwrite then put ’em in a secondary. Again… It’s really really easy. Unless you insist on thinking in terms of tracks. But as there are no tracks, trying to make sense of it in those terms is a fools errand.

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