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Audio Capture Problem – No Right Channel
Hello COW Members! I’ve been helped many times by the Community. I’m stumped on this audio issue and I’m in the need of some experienced help.
I’m on PP CS3, I’ve digitized Video with two different Mic sources (Lavelier on the Left Channel, Shotgun on Right Channel) Video picture and channel 1 are clear and looking good, Channel 2 however is another story. There is VERY low sound or there is NO sound whatsoever in some clips… Upon checking the raw .AVI files it seems to have been captured that way.
My Edit is in a Standstill, Thy Client awaits…
I’ve checked all my hardware, tried multiple cameras, Firewire cables etc. I feel I’ve isolated the problem down to to the point of capture.
Now when digitizing using windows movie maker it does the same thing- Which leads me to the firewire card, not the program that i capture with…
Some Facts:
I’m digitizing to an .AVI Codec.
Video card: Nvidia Quadro FX 540
Firewire Card: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Audio Card : Realtek High Definition Audio cardI’ve have collected some posts with very similar problems…
-Similar problem, this post says that Firewire can’t capture channel 2 audio (?)
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/873129-This one sounds like my story, but no solution
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/876180#876229-Same problem, He solved it with a thrid party workaround. Scenalyzer.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/868739I Trust that Premiere Pro CS3 can provide professional two channel audio input through firewire for editing, its got to be something I’m doing wrong. I have other editing options (FCP, AVID) but I want to fix this so I can add Premiere Pro to my editing platform arsenal. (plus, The Dynamic link to AFX is GREAT, can’t get that on an AVID!)
Thank in advance to all who reply-
JT
JT
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16 Replies
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What camera / camcorder are you capturing from?
Is is a 4 audio channel camera or 2 channels?
Is the volume low on the Premiere meter, or only in the speakers?
Vince
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-Camera: Sony PD-X10
-Only 2 channels of audio(no 4 track here)
-Volume is Low in Premiere meter (you can see a sliver of green at the bottom SLIGHTLY moving
-And its low coming out of the desktop speakers
Thanks for quick reply Vince…
JT
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Well, then I can only conclude that it’s how it was recorded. The signal is digital, so if it’s there, it has to be in the same state as it was on tape. The capture software can’t really alter its volume, neither can Premiere, until it’s sent to the timeline.
If you play back the tape with headphones on the camera (separate channels on left and right, not mix), is it really matching in levels ?
Vince
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Thanks for Help Vince-
The audio was recorded fine, The levels are almost peaking on the Camera audio level monitor and DVcam Deck monitors… There’s ALOT volume there.
I’ve tested the tape in multiple decks and camcorders and i can hear it in the headphones coming out of PDX-10 Loud and clear…
I’m going to try and Digitize this Material in an Edit platform that I am confident in… If I’m getting the same problem there – Its definetly the recording of the tape.
But if its not, I’m still not giving up… There are too many people out there being plauged by this problem and working around PP.
If you could just humor me and tell me that it is possible to record Video and two track audio in to PP… I just need to verify my sanity.
Is there ANY way that i could prevent Audio 2 from coming through the firewire?
Thank you
jtJT
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I predicted the camcorder model from the subject line…
I have a PDX-10…I absolutely love that little thing, but this is the issue right here…the FW out on that camcorder has an issue coming out as two channels over FW…I’ve had the problem in every version of Premiere since I bought the thing.
Most cameras have absolutely no problem outputting 2 channels of sound over FW…there is no FW problem of that sort in general, but the PDX-10 does have an issue with that.
Have you attempted to run the audio in as analog?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,CPO, Digieffects
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Should have waited for Tim 🙂
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Thanks for replies…
Maybe its the PDX-10…But I’ve had the Same Digitizing problem in three Separate cameras. a Canon GL2, The Sony PDX-10, and some tiny consumer handheld that i can’t name at the moment.
I also made sure that i chose the right model in the settings tab PP CS3 has a preset for both the Canon and the Sony.
Could my Audio card be the culprit?
Side note: I just put the footage into Final Cut Pro. Everything is there. Tape Source gets 100% OK. I could slice this thing up right now, but I’m still pushing for answer.
Thanks for the thoughts everyone
JT
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If it works in FCP, I’d cut it there…
i don’t own any Canon camcorders, but I’ve tried any number of ways to get the audio to come into PPro correctly from the PDX10…(it honestly is one of my favorite pieces of equipment)…I’ve had no luck.
Adobe has reproduced the problem…about two versions ago.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,CPO, Digieffects
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Thank you for your input Tim. The PDX10 is a great prosumer camera.
How do you get your footage successfully into premiere pro CS3, If may ask?Due to the fact that I used three different cameras, and then digitized from windows movie maker with the same result —
Not only would I have to rule out the PD-150 but perhaps PP CS3 as well? would you agree?Check out this guys post post below- Same issue
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/876180#876229Does anyone know of a cheap consumer camera that captures V1 A1 & A2 successfully?
I’ll go that route rather than accept deafeat on the PC and go back to Mac FCP.
I sincerely thank you guys for helping me on this- be well
jt
JT
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I only run one channel of audio on a PDX10.
I really don’t use it as an A-cam. Its size makes it work well for small spaces, though it’s light hungry and doesn’t do low light particularly well…
…wish I had a better answer. Sorry.
I still love that thing though…so compact and versatile.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,CPO, Digieffects
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