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  • ATI Driver Upgrade: .Vegs now hang on load!

    Posted by Alonzo Riley on December 16, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    In order to attempt to reduce crashes with Vegas 11, I decided to try and install the newest, shiniest ATI drivers. To my immediate alarm, this created a brand new, never seen before problem. My files, my projects, which I have worked so hard on, will now not load. Oy vey. One project hangs at 7% and another at a measly 21%.

    So, I rolled back the drivers, uninstalled all the fancy software, and resolved to settle for oldish drivers. Surprise surprise, the problem remains. The rollback does not seem thorough, but with system restore points I am stuck with the problems I have.

    Details: This does this to the current two projects that I’m working on, but it loads other (which happen to be smaller) projects just fine. I can’t completely confirm if there’s a correlation with file size, number of cuts, or amount of tracks that are laid down. But the problem does not happen with all files.

    Possible solutions: I’ve read that it may be a corruption of a plug-in or a file. A corrupted file seems unlikely since the problem popped up in more than one project at once. But I’m willing to give it a try. Someone said that you can try moving all the files somewhere else and adding them one by one to see which file is the culprit. I’d be willing to try that, but does anyone know what order vegas loads files in? Does this route seem like a waste of time?

    Reinstall vegas? I don’t want to do this since it took me forever to figure out how to install plugins and am scared I’ll mess things up further, but I guess as a last resort it’s an option. I’d rather try to fix the problem than bypass it.

    Halp!

    Alonzo Riley replied 14 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    December 17, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    ATI has a history of having the worst drivers. I owned one of their cards once… just once. I’d never buy another ATI card because of infinite driver problems.

    First, you should have a backup of your system. Get something like Acronis TrueImage and use it to make backups before you make any critical driver changes. But that’s “water under the bridge” now.

    I would uninstall the ATI drivers and make sure no files remain on your PC, then open the Device Manager and delete your video adapter from the config. Then reboot your computer and have Windows re-discover your video adapter and install the default VGA driver. Then try installing the old ATI driver. This might get you back to where you were.

    Good luck,

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 18, 2011 at 12:14 am

    All these Graphic Cards/GPU software requirements,
    GPU Acceleration, latest Drivers, GPU enable plugins,
    GPU enabled features, NVIDIA Cards for this software,
    ATI Card for that software, OpenCL, OpenGL, CUDA…
    …….Sometimes it gets on my nerves.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker
    Filmex Creative Media.
    1-876-832-4956
    https://filmex-creative-media.blogspot.com/

  • John Rofrano

    December 18, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    [Steve Rhoden] “All these Graphic Cards/GPU software requirements,
    GPU Acceleration, latest Drivers, GPU enable plugins,
    GPU enabled features, NVIDIA Cards for this software,
    ATI Card for that software, OpenCL, OpenGL, CUDA…
    …….Sometimes it gets on my nerves.”

    Now you know why people buy a Mac. It’s the primary reason I bough a Mac. I only use a PC for Vegas Pro and that’s it. The hardware and software integration on a Mac makes working with computers a pleasure again. I’m not saying nothing ever goes wrong on a Mac, but there is much less to go wrong because it’s tighter controlled by Apple.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 19, 2011 at 12:24 am

    Im gonna invest in a few Mac laptops for the new year.
    Its about @&?X# time….lol

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker
    Filmex Creative Media.
    1-876-832-4956
    https://filmex-creative-media.blogspot.com/

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 19, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Seriously John, Im really annoyed by all of it.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker
    Filmex Creative Media.
    1-876-832-4956
    https://filmex-creative-media.blogspot.com/

  • John Rofrano

    December 19, 2011 at 11:47 am

    [Steve Rhoden] “Seriously John, Im really annoyed by all of it.”

    I hear you loud and clear. I’ve held off building a new 12 core computer to see what Apple does with their Pro line. I’ve heard rumors they are going to discontinue it, which would be sad, but after using Mac OS X I am slowly replacing all of my PC’s with Macs (including my family because I’m tired of supporting their Windows laptops too which randomly decide to stop connecting to the network, or stop printing, or stop doing whatever it was they did yesterday but can’t today).

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Alonzo Riley

    December 28, 2011 at 12:11 am

    When I was researching for my system it seemed like a high-end graphics card was not of utmost importance. It was the one element I went non-top of the line with. But what this thread tells me is that company, at least, matters quite a bit. I would happily research and install a new graphics card if I could get rid of these problems, but I’m not completely sure what to go with. It seems like high-end graphics cards are marketed to gamers and that video editing is not really much of a priority. However, if the graphics cards that gamers get are also really excellent at not creating conflicts, problems, and nuisance, then it seems quite worth it to go for the high end. Or would mid-range gamer graphics card be good enough?

    Any recommendations? I’m running:

    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1
    MB: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (B3 revision)
    MB Bios: P8P67 Deluxe 1502 BIOS
    CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
    Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
    Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX
    Hard Drives: OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX90G 3.5″ 90GB SATA II MLC (SSD)
    3 x WD RE4 WD5003ABYX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s X 3 in raid0
    PSU: Antec CP-850 850W

  • John Rofrano

    December 28, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    [Alonzo Riley] “Any recommendations?”

    Have you tried what I suggested? I assume you’re still trying to fix your current PC?

    I would uninstall the ATI drivers and make sure no files remain on your PC, then open the Device Manager and delete your video adapter from the config. Then reboot your computer and have Windows re-discover your video adapter and install the default VGA driver. Then try installing the old ATI driver. This might get you back to where you were.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Alonzo Riley

    March 25, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    I didn’t want to do the uninstalling and all of that. It never seems like those types of solutions ever actually figure out WHAT went wrong. Anyway, I just had the intuition that maybe something was inconsistent between and by figuring out what, I fixed the crashing problem!

    Here’s what I did.

    Since my project has used my own media as well as video converted from .avi (movie clip info) I saw that a lot of my fps’s were not matching. Some of the converted stuff was at 24fps.

    I simply changed it in vegas to always be at 29.97 in every clip.

    Rendered at the same fps.

    No crashes!!! Wahooo!

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