Asynchronous Trimming?

[Craig Howard]

What does “asynchronous trimming ” mean ?

I’ll take a guess and assume you want to trim audio or video in the same clip to different lengths. ( a “J” or an “L” cut).

Easy – select the clip in the time line and then hold the “ALT” key down as you drag the appropriate end of the audio or video track.

Craig
Shooter Film Company
Auckland
New Zealand

(Premiere Pro 1.5 / Matrox TRX100 XTreme Pro)

[Les Kaye]

[Craig Howard] “I’ll take a guess and assume you want to trim audio or video in the same clip to different lengths. ( a “J” or an “L” cut).”

No. It’s being able to trim a track (video or audio) in one direction while also trimming other tracks (or track) in opposing direction. All in one step. It’s something I use often.

See very rough diagram below. (The | are cut points in a timeline, and the arrows represent clip lengths, and the direction of the trim.

V ____>>>>>|
A1 ________|<<<<<< A2 ______|>>>>>>>>>>>
A3 ______________|<<<<

[Craig Howard]

My suggestion can only deal with one clip in one track at a time. Interested to know how it is done over multiple tracks, in one-step, in other applications.

Craig
Shooter Film Company
Auckland
New Zealand

(Premiere Pro 1.5 / Matrox TRX100 XTreme Pro)

[Creig Bryan]

Sounds more like Ppro’s ability to drag the edit point, diminishing one clip, whilst lengthening the adjoining clip. Because PPro is single track editing, the description given above doesn’t quite fit it, but instead, seems a more appropriate fit for A/B editing.

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[Les Kaye]

[creig bryan] “the description given above doesn’t quite fit it, but instead, seems a more appropriate fit for A/B editing.”

No, it has nothing to do with A/B editing. It’s a feature in both Avid & FCP. Don’t know if it’s in other NLEs.

[Craig Howard]

I am not sure I now understand what you are trying to achieve. Your diagram seems to show a video clip and three audio tracks of various lengths.

PremPro can “end trim” ,slip, slide, roll edit etc the audio tracks exactly as you show.

Whats the difficulty ? It is no problem to trim in any direction (if you have enough media of course).

Craig
Shooter Film Company
Auckland
New Zealand

(Premiere Pro 1.5 / Matrox TRX100 XTreme Pro)

[Les Kaye]

[Craig Howard] “Whats the difficulty ? It is no problem to trim in any direction”

Respectfully,
The basic question is to trim one (or more) tracks in one direction while you’re trimming another track (or tracks) in the opposite direction with one operation. This would be regardless of whether the cutpoints are in sync or linked or are at identical locations. It’s apparent that PPro can’t do this.

[Craig Howard]

Respectfully…how is this done in other editing applications ?

ie. what is the single step that trims video and audio tracks in different directions. You seem to be saying that with a single command (“one step”) various tracks will select and trim themselves in various directions to given points in the timeline.

I still don’t get it. Maybe you could give an example of where and why this would be done.

Craig
Shooter Film Company
Auckland
New Zealand

(Premiere Pro 1.5 / Matrox TRX100 XTreme Pro)

[Les Kaye]

[Craig Howard] “ie. what is the single step that trims video and audio tracks in different directions”

Perhaps I should have said “a single trim step”. So okay. In Avid: enter trim mode and ctl or cmd click (depending on platform) the desired sides of the cut points (outgoing or incoming). There is a visual representation on the trim roller of the a side, b side or both sides of a cut point. Then drag or jkl play the desired length. As the outgoing side of a cut extends toward the tail of the sequence, you’ll see the incoming side of the opposing cut(s) selected move toward the head of the sequence. FCP works similarly except if desired, there is no trim mode to enter (just like PPro). And like microwave ovens, it’s a feature that once used is pretty indespensable for keeping tracks in sync (as opposed to just locking them).

[Don Huckleberry]

Ok,

So you have maybe V1 and A1 as synced a/v from video, you want to put sfx/music whatever on A2-3 etc. Right? Now you want to ripple or roll edit video and then audio seperately? Why can’t you go into Trim mode then target a different audio track while in Trim mode jump to the edit and trim away? Is that the same thing only more elegant in Avid? I cannot visualize what you want to do and have not used the tool.

Don