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  • Are the analog outputs for the HVX200 switchable to RGB?

    Posted by Gary Taylor on November 30, 2005 at 10:37 pm

    Hello all,
    From what I undestand the analog output so the HVX-200 are precompression. Does anyone know if they are switchable to RGB like most other professional cameras?
    Thanks,
    Gary

    Barry Green replied 20 years, 7 months ago 9 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    December 1, 2005 at 2:34 am

    Hi Gary,

    No they are not.

    Sorry,

    Jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • Gary Taylor

    December 1, 2005 at 3:13 pm

    Hi Jan,
    Thanks for the clear answer; it is much appreciated. I realize that this might be thought of as a semipro camera but I think that would be a great feature in a updated version of the camera. Would be another great way to differetiate it from the HDV cameras as a truly pro camera.
    Gary

  • Joe

    December 1, 2005 at 4:27 pm

    I’m not sure I understand the question and answer. Will the component outputs be able to input to BetaSP with downconversion on playback?

  • Gary Taylor

    December 1, 2005 at 5:10 pm

    Hi there,
    The issue is most professional SD and HD cameras with analog outputs allow you to output a 4:4:4 signal as well as the normal 4:2:2 component output. This is normally switched on the cameras internal menus. This isn’t normally a big deal because the in a 3 chip camera the DSP is almost aways working with an uncompressed RGB signal. The manufacturer just gives us a way to get this output instead of the standard video signal.

    A 4:4:4 signal is greatly superior to 4:4:4 when chromakeying because if the increased color detail. When working with hardware keyers it has been common to use the 4:4:4 output from the camera to maximize quality. Such a device would then output the composited 4:2:2 video.

    Up until this very point there have been almost no affordable 4:4:4 capture solutions. However this likely to change soon with products like the Decklink Multibridge and other yet to be announced products providing the possibity of 4:4:4 captures from analog sources.

    Obviously this is overkill for almost every project and would require a computer with a VERY fast array. But for that especially challenging key it could make all the difference in the world. The ability to capture in 4:4:4 is is one of the main strengths of HDCAM SR. Of course I wouldn’t expect to get the same results but I can’t afford HDCAM SR either. It is always great to have options. Still I have have high expecations for the HVX-200.
    Gary

  • Ron Shook

    December 1, 2005 at 5:36 pm

    Scenecutter,

    [scenecutter] “I’m not sure I understand the question and answer. Will the component outputs be able to input to BetaSP with downconversion on playback?”

    Good question, and related questions: Is there any sort of composite or S-video output that downconverts to SD when shooting HD for monitoring in SD? Also, again I ask if it is possible while shooting PVCProHD and/or DVCPro50 to record to miniDV tape a downconverted DV25 backup?

    Ron Shook

  • Toke

    December 2, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    Ron, do you mean recoring hd/dv50 to p2 and _simultaneosly_ a backup to dv-tape?

  • Toke

    December 2, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    AFAIK, from our conversation with Jan about pixel shifting, hvx200 does not function exactly like bigger cameras with full res chips.

    Because hvx200 has smaller chips, it needs to use pixel shifting with lower res chips to achieve better sensivity with larger pixels.

    Again AFAIK, hvx200 re-aligns these pixel shifted r-,g- & b-pictures very early in process pipe still in analog domain to achieve sharp aligned YPbPr-picture.

    So because there is no stage where picture would be in aligned rgb-mode, there is no way to output this rgb-image.

    Jan said that there will be an article about how hvx200 does this pixel shifting in defperception.com, so that will clear this thing even more.

  • Ron Shook

    December 2, 2005 at 3:16 pm

    Toke,

    [toke lahti] “Ron, do you mean recoring hd/dv50 to p2 and _simultaneosly_ a backup to dv-tape?”

    Exactly! I don’t really expect a positive response to this, but what a great and marketable feature that would be, eh?

    Ron Shook

  • Toke

    December 2, 2005 at 4:52 pm

    I’d like that also.
    Maybe everything will be revealed next week at DV Expo.

  • Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations

    December 2, 2005 at 9:51 pm

    Sorry Ron,
    not possible.
    It is a shame it does not record HDV instead of DV on Tape.(or both)
    jiri vrzina

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