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Apple’s aesthetic skills went off the rails
Burt Hazard replied 12 years, 10 months ago 17 Members · 67 Replies
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Jeremy Garchow
September 18, 2013 at 8:53 pm[Oliver Peters] “Yes they are. I’m only talking about readability and how the eye reacts to thinness of lines, color and contrast. That’s all. This is even more true with Apple’s awful glossy screens.”
Ok, but that is not “video” design vs print design.
You are talking about legibility.
In your screen grabs, Pages is harder to discern to me. I can look at the Mail page and know exactly what to do.
A flatter, brighter background will help with glossy screens rather than trying to separate icons and other elements from a background with shadows and leather.
It is the dark background that highlights any reflection.
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Bill Davis
September 18, 2013 at 8:54 pmMy 2 cents after a day or so for the new look to sink in.
Maybe the thin type and pastels can be seen as a “because we finally CAN” exhaultation from Ive and co?
Bye bye 8bit color and needing to make EVERY line weight and font shadow bold enough to handle a crappy legacy SD raster, now we CAN use subtle color gradients and retina resolutions.
So why not give Apples new technical realities a visual expression?
X still looks like X to me when I’m using it, so the new colors are just in view for email, and web surfing and finder stuff, so as long as I can read and respond to the visual cues, I can get my work done.
The rest is aesthetics.
And I can be flexible about that.
And at least Apple’s new livery is 180 degree rejection of what I’ve always considered to be the miserable RED design ethic!
Goth black with pulsing red with claws and struts and evil imagry of scary everything, everywhere like it exploded out of an R Giger convention – meet Apple. Lighter and airier and clean and happy and positive.
For the gruff and sweaty editors of yesteryear with yellow grease pencil peelings underfoot and an asethetic honed on blocky Ampex designs – this is foreign territory fur sure!
Lets see if it grows ON us – or not. At least if the new Apple livery touched me on the shoulder – I wouldn’t shriek. And that’s something!
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Oliver Peters
September 18, 2013 at 9:02 pm[Bill Davis] “X still looks like X to me when I’m using it, so the new colors are just in view for email, and web surfing and finder stuff, so as long as I can read and respond to the visual cues, I can get my work done.”
My original point is that there now appears to be a definite design schism within Apple. Had X been released now (or in the near future) you would never have had the UI it now has. That “look” is a vestige of the Final Cut Server UI design team.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 18, 2013 at 9:31 pm[Chris Harlan] “My taste for the skeumorphic is mixed. “
Mine too.
I am already finding iOS7 to be much more pleasant. Everything has a purpose, it’s not just eye candy to make you think you are holding a leather book, or pressing down a “button” on a flat object. There seems to be some gratuitous animation, but what else is new in Apple land?
[Chris Harlan] “more because of the default script font than the look of a notepad, but I get by with it even though I don’t like the look.”
Well, sure. We all do, although I like the “Clear” app for certain lists.
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Aindreas Gallagher
September 18, 2013 at 9:46 pmIf Ive remains in charge of human user interface design – and who thinks he isn’t going to – given what he represents to the company they can’t take that back, it’s hard not to see skeuomorphism, right down to all glows, bevels and drop shadows getting exterminated – apple will have to back this across the line – if they don’t, they can’t expect third parties to. My iphone is overloaded with updates to toe the iOS line.
You’d have to figure this new iOS is going to come “back to the mac” just like previous elements did with Lion?
There was a greater financial risk to apple pulling the design rug out from under iOS than there is doing the same with OSX?
iOS is basically the premier operating system in revenue terms. There’s no way Apple aren’t going to enforce the aesthetic logic through every last inch of OSX over time. Every screen and default app in an apple store in 18 months probably has to look like a really nice cousin of iOS – presumably that means farewell to the 3D dock, the 3D bin, all that stuff getting dumped. among other things. It has to. Otherwise they’re not really backing it – goes to FCPX and the other Apple sold apps too you’d have to reckon.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Bill Davis
September 18, 2013 at 9:53 pmAbsolutely agree. It represents where The Pro Apps design sense was 2.5 to 3 years ago when they were likely doing the UI layout work.
And yep, i agree it would likely look different if designed today.
Then again, we the few foolish and bold early adopters wouldn’t have got a nice jump on things if they’d held it in development longer to grt things “righter.”
So it’s early flaws, design or otherwise, kinda now seem positive more than negative to me in hindsight!
Who knew the the sound of all the constant yelling would end up being the sound of opportunity knocking!
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Chris Harlan
September 18, 2013 at 10:04 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I am already finding iOS7 to be much more pleasant. Everything has a purpose, it’s not just eye candy to make you think you are holding a leather book, or pressing down a “button” on a flat object. There seems to be some gratuitous animation, but what else is new in Apple land?
“Today’s the day, ain’t it? Maybe I’ll jump in with the iPad first and test the water.
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Aindreas Gallagher
September 18, 2013 at 10:33 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “floating windows should be damned to floating hell.”
honestly? you think single brick interfaces are the way forward?
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Chris Harlan
September 19, 2013 at 12:33 am[Jeremy Garchow] “Today, is in fact, the day!
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It’s not letting me download. I keep getting told that I need to update iTunes, but iTunes tells me I’m up to date and that there is nothing to download. I’m guessing the error messages are actually meaningless, and that the servers are clogged.
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