-
Apple’s aesthetic skills went off the rails
-
[Oliver Peters] “It’s as if this was approached as print design. It’s not. It’s video design and all the same rules apply.
“Wait. iCloud is video design?
-
[Jeremy Garchow] “Funny. As I look at your screengrabs in the browser, I can read and see Mail much easier than Pages”
Time to start happy hour later in the day then 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com -
[Jeremy Garchow] “Wait. iCloud is video design?”
Any graphic design for a computer display is video design.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com -
You have to go to that page and see it in your browser, it’s Windows. I guess if we have to move to Windows it won’t be that hard after all if this trend continues.
I remember reading the Steve Jobs biography, and there is a part at the end where Bill Gates says something like (paraphrasing) “At the end we were both Steve and I right, open model works and closed models also work, but only if Steve is at the helm”
-
[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “I prefer the iWork icons, but that’s life in the big city.”
So you are a fan of the skeumorph?
“No! We already done danced this dance. Iconography and skeumorphism are separate concerns. Just because an icon has more detail or is more photorealistic or traditionally drawn doesn’t make that icon any more or less skeumorphic than an icon with a more abstract representation. Skeumorphism has nothing to do with them.
My taste for the skeumorphic is mixed. Its at its worst when it actually gets in the way of computer use with fake old-timey toggle switches, but I don’t mind a mixer looking like a mixer. Something like Notepad is mildly annoying, more because of the default script font than the look of a notepad, but I get by with it even though I don’t like the look. I’m sure I’ll feel the same about this new look after awhile. It ain’t me, but, oh well.
-
I don’t think “video” design and web page (graphic) design are the same thing.
Web pages are more like interactive print pages, and less like video. They can contain video, but they aren’t video.
The 2D nature of flat design makes much more sense than some sort of faux 3D, which is why GMail’s app works so well. Things live on top and behind, and don’t simlulate above and below. It’s a flat screen and I can’t reach in to it.
Also, what “rules” of video design need to be adhered to?
You will hate Gmail, then. It’s about as flat as can be:
-
[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t think “video” design and web page (graphic) design are the same thing.”
Yes they are. I’m only talking about readability and how the eye reacts to thinness of lines, color and contrast. That’s all. This is even more true with Apple’s awful glossy screens.
[Jeremy Garchow] “You will hate Gmail, then. It’s about as flat as can be:”
I like aspects of Gmail. Flat isn’t the problem. iCloud Mail before the update was also flat. But also more useable. For example you can design a flat icon as a flat solid object dark against a light background. Or you can design it as a thin white outline. The former is more readable than the latter.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com -
Ah, but you are. Everything you see on the iCloud page is iOS7. EXCEPT pages and the other 2 iWork betas. Especially the thin icons. If you don’t like the thin icons well every app on ios7 has that pasty no contrast gotta READ it to know what it is look.
-
[Bret Williams] “If you don’t like the thin icons well every app on ios7 has that pasty no contrast gotta READ it to know what it is look.”
Glad I still have a 1st gen iPad and a “dumb-phone” 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com -
I, and I’m sure many web designers, would disagree.
Hi DPI screen are essentially print now- so pessimistically, application/web design is at least 50/50 print/video, but I think things have leaned FAR closer to print as resolution has eliminated many design barriers.
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up